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High voltage HHO by IronHead

Started by IronHead, March 08, 2007, 06:19:16 PM

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kokomoj0

Quote from: IronHead on June 11, 2007, 09:36:56 PM

Yeah there is no capacitor in this cell. A cap would not help in this cell.

The cell that  "kokomoj0" is talking about is a different type where the cell itself is a capacitor.

kool!  i was not aware of that!   So i can tune this pup to be a resonant current tank huh :)   nice   (wonders if they are liquid dependant or spacing dependant or both) and the effects of temp i bet changes it too.  sounds like my kind of party.    old ham radio antenna builder here :)



alexleigh

yikes,
Sorry! I have no idea on vaccum condition.

Ironhead,
What should I do next? I would like to put my cell into my jeep. Is it the stage to do this? I have a question on how to step up 12-14V to 36V with 300W in my car? Should I do more tests like pluse? sorry for many questions. Thank you!!!


IronHead

This is for both High and Low voltage
Next will learn the effects of pulsing. and you can put anything in your car any time you want. But I do not recommend it at this point in time.

You will need a pulse source that will do from 0 - 50+ khz and 0-100% duty cycle to start out.
This gen must sweep in real time. You are going to send a vibration to the plates in the water and resonate the water in the tub. So there is no set number for this Frequency as all things will resonate differently . So you will need to sweep the  Frequencies  applied to the plates until you hit the the target resonance of the water in this cell. You will know as the HHO will rip off those plates like you never saw before.

Vibration is the source , Resonance is the  outcome of the applied source .

If you do not have this equipment or do not know how to use such equipment  ,Speak Up and I will led you to an easyer way.

There is going to be a gradient in the resonant  magnetic field . Pay attention to every plate and how they reacted . How much HHO is extracted from the the water in the gradient. Take note

This discussion starts now

MacGyver_1rjq104

I am a little confused.  I thought Stan Meyer was doing this, "Water Fracturing", without heating up the water.  Conventional Electrolysis causes the water to heat by pumping large amounts of current into the water.  According to Stan, he only needs 500 miliamps or 1/2 amp of current and what ever the voltage is.  If you watch the video, "Equinox" on you tube, you can see that what has convinced them that it is a different way of breaking down the water is the fact that the water temp didn't change.  Am I totally off base?  Thanks for any help you can give me!!!!




Quote from: IronHead on March 08, 2007, 06:19:16 PM
It all starts with these videos  I made up of a quick and dirty high voltage HHO
system to show a few people here on the forums. Well I did not think this would hijack another thread (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1500.130.html)
completely and attract so much attention.But it did , so here we are.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnIJyNmI33U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoEXaNnBRPo


The HHO system is Hydrogen Oxygen production at 150F degrees 90VDC.This system is also pulsed. We will talk about that later as each build requires a different pulse to work proper. It is my belief that high voltage low current is required to break the bond of Hydrogen and Oxygen. At least on this level of production.This is a capacitor ,treat it like one when working with these voltages that can discharge rapidly.

It must stay at this temp (150F) or it will  steam very fast so it must be cooled with radiator. This is why I am running the bench system for a shot time . If I ran it longer you would see steam billow " A hell of a lot in a very short time" from the canister.

So what you are seeing is a dirty quick build bench top version of the system I run in my vehicle.. I will soon be removing this system from my vehicle ,to remove and replace the Silver with Nitronic as the Silver is breaking down .
Do not use Tungsten in this system on the oxygen side, It will dissolve.
316 stainless is good ,and Nitronic Stainless is preferred method.

People are asking me how much gas is produced .I am no scientist I build what works for a given application. So the system in my vehicle produces enough for what I need it to do , get more bang for the buck on a big block 454ci engine.

BTW "Moab"great job you are on the top of my list of just do-ers . The "Just done it" list as it were.
You did it with out a zillion question about this that and the other scientific blah blah. Keep up the good builds

This is a very complicated system to run in a vehicle.
If you want something easy and that is proven ,buy a MagDrive


Just Build It
just do it!

IronHead



IronHead

This has nothing to do with Stan Meyer.
Fact is your going to see alot more Hydrogen then you saw with Stan Meyer video of the tubes in the acrylic case and in a smaller format.

Now Stan did some amazing things beyond that video  but for now this is what we are doing. These are experiments  so everyone can see with there eyes and  do the process from the ground up to learn . When done this little experiment will at least be a usable working system we can all use and move on to the higher end  adding to what we build here in a modular way.

None of these voltages are written in stone. But they have there purpose.

IronHead