High voltage HHO by IronHead

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Video installment #4 is uploading as I write this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1v36doW-34Q

I'm trying to get this thing together fairly rapidly. We're taking a fairly long car trip in a while and I want it churning under the hood the entire way. Another thought I had to increase gas production - Mount it in such a way that it receives vibration from the ICE. I will also be using NaOH instead of KOH. Easier to work with, safer for the motor and I can't believe that the amount of CO it produces as a biproduct will be all that appreciable.

Does anyone have any data on the CO production as a percentage of HHO when using NaOH?

IH, do you have any recommendation on the size of the electrolyte containment vessel relative to the S-Cell?

Lastly, I'd like to get cheaply or make from scratch a device to measure gas flow. Suggestions welcome.

ZFF

[Zoi]

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[ZeroFossilFuel]

Very nice Cell. She is looking so professional. I too need to clean up my lab/shop today. Anyway thanks for the new video. Is there a reason to encase the cell in plastic and restrict the flow of electrolyte?

I am told it has been observed that completely electrically isolated cells in a neutral series cell system can produce up to 3 times the amount of gas over open plates just submerged in electrolyte. Haven't tried it myself yet but I will. The S-Cell has it's plates isolated only on three sides if you don't count conduction through the foam generated on top. It seemed logical to me that enclosing the bottom side might be more efficient. I am also told by those who have experimented with this for some time that it's more important to keep electrolyte flowing across the plates to release the gas bubbles allowing more rapid generation of new gas bubbles. I felt that a bottom plate with holes would allow me to experiment to see if there's a balance to be achieved.

This raises a question for me that I'd like to pose to the group. Should the side walls of the S-Cell be below the electrolyte level, at least on one side? How else will it flow freely? And would that not create more leakage current? Maybe free flow is not what's important, only the rapid release of bubbles from the plates. There are other ways to make that happen.

[dlwammo]

That's what makes this such a great little instructional cell...   

Now you can investigate whether or not you should be keeping the neutral plates above the water level to prevent leakage. 

And if you keep them above the water level.... how do keep them supplied with electrolyte?

Another thing I learned from watching your videos is that I immediately went and got some thicker material before I go cutting the slots in the sidewalls.  Hope this will keep them from warping.  I plan on using a little desktop CNC mill I have to do this with.

Dan

[keithturtle]

@ZFF;
A quick and dirty way of quantifying yer gas output is done with a tee, a couple stop cocks and a drum, any size, that can be laid upon its side, with watertight bung fittings capable of receiving yer hose.

Now then follow me in this.  We are simply going to displace the water in the drum, and measure that thar volume, and compare same against time.

Setup.  I'll use 3/8" barb fittings fer instance.   Lay yer drum on its side, blocking so's it cain't roll nowhere, bungs vertical.  With yer barb fittings placed it the appropriate reducers, attach the lower one to yer garden hose, venting the top hose to atmosphere.  Fill with water.  When full, take yer fill pipe and hold it at least a foot above highest point of drum.   Direct it thenceforth into an empty bucket, graduated cylinder, or any suitable container that'll tell ye how much water ya got.

Now, take the 3/8" hose from the top bung, the one that was pukin' water whenever y'all filled the drum full... take that thar hose and attach it, plum full o' water, to yer tee, the tee that comes offa yer unit gas output.   The height of the water-pukin' hose that empties into the measuring container, that dischagre point determines head pressure applied to the cell.   Hold it up 10' above the top of the drum and y'all got about 4.33 PSI of back-pressure.

The rest is academic.  Valve to send yer gas to the drum, noting time, amps, yada yada, whatever, and the gas sent to the drum dislaces water to yer bucket.   Run to yer hearts content, but keep in mind the explosive potential of the drum contents.   

Now you can determine amps applied fer gas output.   See, it ain't "rokit scyense" after all.

You might had oughta make provisions (fittings) to put the water back into the drum under pressure, forcing gas back out in a controlled manner, and you really don't wanna light it.

Turtle