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Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead

Started by IronHead, March 08, 2007, 06:31:51 PM

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pgflyjoe

Howdy fellers.
I am really interested in more of your guys experiences. I am fixin to build me a plasma generator and am learning about this stuff fast. Thanks for teaching me what you have posted so far.
A few questions
would tungsten carbide last longer?
anybody try 50K volts? would a car coil work?
Are all those other people trying this accounting for HHO production and its energy potenial in their output?
WIth carbon rods does the gas not burn in plasma or produce that other gas, magnegas etc?
Thanks I really appreciate it. I know I need to learn alot about electronics, chemistry and all that but I want to try too and maybe come up with some novel idea that might help.

keithturtle

Welcome to the quest, pgflyjoe;

The basic elements of plasma are four:  Rod, charged negative; Field, charged pos, stainless preferred; solution, predominately natural water but with Na2 H CO3, KOH or K2CO3 as additives in small qty to increase conductivity; and a containment vessel capable of transporting away the heated solution to a heat exchanger. [ After the basics, there is a plethora of variables; you ain't ready fer that, and neither am I]

The power applied must be, initially, DC.  Things start happening above 180 volts, so be prepared to use mains power and a decent bridge rectifier.   Be prepared to provide 20 amps at start up.  Mondo variac almost a must.   

Start with green rod pure tungsten.

Try any and every combination of the above, and log every detail of yer process.

This ain't fer the faint of heart.

You have a tremendous amount to learn, and the cell will do the teaching..

Build it and learn.

Turtle
Soli Deo Gloria

keithturtle

Quote from: pgflyjoe on December 22, 2007, 01:27:21 AM
Howdy fellers.
I am really interested in more of your guys experiences. I am fixin to build me a plasma generator and am learning about this stuff fast.

Yer youth betrays you.  Take yer time, lest you not live to tell the tale.

Turtle
Soli Deo Gloria

H2inICE

Walking down your old path Iron Head, thank you for all the info and inspiration

Ooooh and they make a great looking light  ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd3jAuCi3-c


H2inICE

ApEkV2

@ IronHead, did you try connecting a microwave oven transformer's primary in series with the anode? 
This is my latest progress of my experiments. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h00kMLVy8AM&feature=channel_page
Even though this is a small cell, I am still able to sustain the reaction at 200watts.  I have too much electrolyte in the water so that causes the larger consumption of power.  I believe the increase in light and sound has to do with resonance somehow.  Here is the circuit I built. 
http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/3/1/10/f_circuitm_c1572bd.jpg
I can not locate a MoT (microwave transformer) anywhere and had to use an oil burner transformer.  I get the same results, but the oil burner transformer doesn't like much current at all.  If you haven't tried it already, try it.  It easily doubled the production and heat for me. 

The capacitor bank on the AC side creates a voltage drop in essence limits current.  The dimmer.......I don't know what it does to the whole circuit, but it allows me to tune into the best "groove".  I am still trying to figure out how to use the secondary of the transformer.  Someone suggested spark gaps, but I don't think the oil burner transformer puts out enough volts off the secondary (supposed to be around 9000 to 10000 volts).