Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead

[IronHead]

Is the stainless steel mesh around the Tungsten rod something like this ??

You found the right one .

JLN Labs got 15 times , thats a very nice cell they built.
The gas coming from the cell is filtered and release outside the living space.
I don't us baking soda anymore though  as I have posted on youtube this is  tap water.
The way I figured out the heat was enough to show me it will make a nice floor heating system . So I built it.
There is more maintenance than I would like. But I will solve that soon. I will build new reactor using a tungsten wire feed system and fully automate the process.
Yes Tungsten is consumed but at a much low rate than what most have seen in this type of cell do to ,two different resigns. The reactor never goes over 200*F and the system is intermittent.

Also green tip rod is better. But temps and current are very important here.You must turn the reactor on and off as I have described to retain the tungsten for long periods of time. Understand that if you water temps goes up to full boil your rod temp goes way up.


IronHead

[hartiberlin]

IronHead I see,
Many thanks for the infos.
In the YouTube video you wrote you used Sodium Chloride ( Tablesalt , NaCl).

Is this necessary or did you drop it now and only use tap water now ?

In the video one can see, that the arc is pretty yellow,
which means Natrium ( Sodium) is involved, but it could
release some Chlorine gas, which is toxic.

So could this be used at all without any electrolyte salt ?

I guess you are right, it needs a good temperature control circuit,
so the water never goes over a certain level of temperature and
the current pulses must be controlled for the best and most
economic burning and lowest Tungsten consumption.

Maybe also TungstenCarbid ( WoC) rods can be used ?

It is said to be still harder than just Tungsten.

Regards, Stefan.

[IronHead]

IronHead I see,
Many thanks for the infos.
In the YouTube video you wrote you used Sodium Chloride ( Tablesalt , NaCl).

Is this necessary or did you drop it now and only use tap water now ?

In the video one can see, that the arc is pretty yellow,
which means Natrium ( Sodium) is involved, but it could
release some Chlorine gas, which is toxic.

So could this be used at all without any electrolyte salt ?




I guess you are right, it needs a good temperature control circuit,
so the water never goes over a certain level of temperature and
the current pulses must be controlled for the best and most
economic burning and lowest Tungsten consumption.

Maybe also TungstenCarbid ( WoC) rods can be used ?

It is said to be still harder than just Tungsten.

Regards, Stefan.

This is my video. I wrote nothing about salt.
maybe there is a link problem. The color might be from my water it is well water.
So I am sure there is all kinds of nasty stuff in it  lol
This is why I vent the gas out and run through carbon and resin scubber.

And the green rod is a pure tungsten version .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeTQW2pH2Oc



IronHead

[hartiberlin]

Hmm,
here is another simular video and the guy  "majorvoltage"  there wrote this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RICa4OW38bI



majorvoltage :
With about 150 volts DC applied to aquious sodium chloride elecrolyte through tungsten electrodes. The cathode is made to have a much smaller surface area than the anode so that the hydrogen produced on it surrounds it and forces the current to arc through it, turning it into plasma.

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Is this also another useraccount from you IronHead ?

Did you earlier use sodium chloride elecrolyte ?

[IronHead]

Hmm,
here is another simular video and the guy  "majorvoltage"  there wrote this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RICa4OW38bI



majorvoltage :
With about 150 volts DC applied to aquious sodium chloride elecrolyte through tungsten electrodes. The cathode is made to have a much smaller surface area than the anode so that the hydrogen produced on it surrounds it and forces the current to arc through it, turning it into plasma.

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Is this also another useraccount from you IronHead ?

Did you earlier use sodium chloride elecrolyte ?

No thats not me  but that guy did post to my video and message me asking how to make a good stable arc. You can see a huge differance between mine and his  he is at 150Volts with salt ...  I am at 120V in tap water. But puls e is the key here. even just using 120hz you will do much better then he is showing

Also  that kind of thing will eat up tungsten in a very short time.I think it is because the plasma is not coming away from the rod, understand ?
If you look very close at mine there seems to be a sort of cavitation pocket
at the tip of the rod.

One more thing, and you only see this on camera, There seems to be specs of electric charged particles jumping into a steam . I have better video of this happening . In one video the are dancing all around the  SS screen.




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