Generating 100% noiseless DC voltage and current

[gyulasun]

Hi Tao,

Ok, I got them, thanks.
Your thoughts on the "fate" of this setup is reasonable I think. And this situation is unfortunate, I tend to think Naudin wrote what he wrote on purpose, once the setup had been as patent applied for.
I would be happily read Stefan's understandings on this too.

Re Sullivan's case, it is obvious the US Patent Office hold up the granting of his application, for he included measurement results in the Example as an obvious overunity (input: 12.92V at 0.8A, output: 6.5V at 40A loading current), a COP of over 25! (if we believe in the application data of course).

Regards
Gyula

[tao]

For those interested in contacting, I have located Steven Sullivan...

He has had a corporation since '99 called Omnidyne.
He has the patent(application) US2003025416: http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US2003025416&F=0
He is the originator of the EasyMEG.

His corporation Omnidyne is incorporated in Florida and all his contact info is here: http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?a1=DETFIL&n1=P98000082668&n2=NAMFWD&n3=0000&n4=N&r1=&r2=&r3=&r4=OMNIDYNE&r5=

He is obviously still around because he has kept up his corporate filings.
08/13/2006 -- ANNUAL REPORT

[tao]

Here is some data from FEMM to tease your mind and move you to ACT on this design...

Note: There was a constant 20 amps being put into the toroid coil on the toroidal core and the magnet rotor was moved in 10 degree increments. This shows through FEMM analysis that this design CAN'T be used as a motor, ONLY a generator. Oh, you might want to know that having 0 through over 100 amps going through the toroid core all produce practically IDENTICAL torque values(like those listed below).

What is below is a simple verification of what JL Naudin said at the bottom of his webpage:
"As you can notice in the results below, there is no speed change in spite of the intensity of the load. If the output coil is short-circuited there is also no speed break."


For 20 Amps:
At 0 degrees, Torque = -0.0009817438326728337 N
At 10 degrees, Torque = 9.772240574959878e-006 N
At 20 degrees, Torque = -0.001101295481678291 N
At 30 degrees, Torque = -0.002626577964867691 N
At 40 degrees, Torque = -0.006226968852356712 N
At 50 degrees, Torque = 0.00233148835752307 N
At 60 degrees, Torque = 0.00883054400279997 N
At 70 degrees, Torque = 0.02561072601289777 N
At 80 degrees, Torque = -0.01353369591225235 N
At 90 degrees, Torque = -0.01142745225242375 N
At 100 degrees, Torque = -0.02766294113134633 N
At 110 degrees, Torque = 0.006280762507799352 N
At 120 degrees, Torque = -0.009836929582267449 N
At 130 degrees, Torque = -0.01444920554524031 N
At 140 degrees, Torque = 0.002949971954641363 N
At 150 degrees, Torque = 0.001125314130291776 N
At 160 degrees, Torque = 0.001826714955073673 N
At 170 degrees, Torque = -0.001862916673116099 N
At 180 degrees, Torque = -0.009961534718975203 N
At 190 degrees, Torque = 0.008104876157242685 N
At 200 degrees, Torque = 0.003549206052378345 N
At 210 degrees, Torque = 0.008421799500612488 N
At 220 degrees, Torque = 0.00692905846722094 N
At 230 degrees, Torque = -0.0001280430610466589 N
At 240 degrees, Torque = 0.0189246174282994 N
At 250 degrees, Torque = 0.03545781830688011 N
At 260 degrees, Torque = 0.005237435261593956 N
At 270 degrees, Torque = 0.004039433118091761 N
At 280 degrees, Torque = -0.01323866537624573 N
At 290 degrees, Torque = 0.01619653153268216 N
At 300 degrees, Torque = -0.004107694167806885 N
At 310 degrees, Torque = -0.01118367147562354 N
At 320 degrees, Torque = 0.00490410685805791 N
At 330 degrees, Torque = 0.002329700141073329 N
At 340 degrees, Torque = 0.002533793413706925 N
At 350 degrees, Torque = -0.001531691555336643 N

[gyulasun]

Hi Tao,

Would you give some details on the setup your torque simulations based on:
-magnet is inside the centre of the toroidal core?
-coil fully covers the core or just like that of used by Naudin?
-how much air gap is involved between the magnet ends and inside diameter of the toroid?
-approximate OD, ID of the core?

Knowing these would help more in digesting this all I think.

Thanks,
Gyula

[tak22]

Hi all,

This has got to be one of the easiest theories to experiment with that we've seen around here in a long time. I'm a constant lurker around here, always waiting for something that I can tackle with limited budget, time, and equipment. I'm going to tackle it. Anyone else onboard?

Here's a snippet of conversation from KeelyNet between Jerry Decker and Steven Sullivan:

Sullivan
I read the info about steven's device. I remember talking to someone
via e-mail in 1996 about my design and he stated that he was using bailing wire for the core material to run through a coil that was already wound as he had no wire to wind onto a toroidal core so he
used the bailing wire inserting into an existing coil.
By the way my name is Steven Sullivan.

Decker
Interesting, some say iron wire is the key to a working free energy
device. I have some questions if you don't mind answering;
1) what is the input power vs output power of your device

Sullivan
Our test setup uses an ac induction motor for the rotational input to
our generator.

Until we get our torque meter we will not have an accurate measure of the input power to the generator but when we short the output we get a current flow of over 30 amps without any increase in input current to the 3/4 hp motor.

When we compaired this with current generator designs the current design stalled our motor when we shorted the output.

Our newest effort will be using 48 MGOe material 32 magnets on a 4 inch rotor with 16 magnets for each pole of a 2 pole rotor.

We are also going to a low loss electrical steel and tightening the air
gap this all should increase the overall performance.

We have many different models over 13 in all. The output is AC on all
of these prototype models. We have one model that draws 15 amps when shorted and the input motor current decreases by 2 amps.

Shorting is used for our testing as it is the highest current flow that
the generator will ever have to produce which is also the maximum torque the generator would ever see as torque is directly proportional to current.

Verification will be conducted by a University. Once the patent comes
into public domain anyone can construct a prototype as I believe that is what the current law allows.

If you wish to construct a device I would not mind. All you need is a DC slotless brushless motor and remove the windings and wind the stator core in a toroidal fashion.

Then attach to an input source to provide the rotational motion. You
should use a slotless motor of 2.5 HP or larger as the smaller cores
have an inductance that is very high and the terminal voltage will
drop as you load it.

I can provide you with any details about the construction. I will have
much more information when we complete our newest prototype.