Source of energy, Testatika

[libra_spirit]

Hello group,

Very impressive flow happening here!

Adressing the thoughts of converting the static E field to a usable current that can deliver E x I = P actual power to a closed circuit.
I would consider the output cases on the two outer sides of the device very carefully, not as capacitors but more like Joe Cells or Morray tubes.
The spacing between tubes can become very criticle for the transfer of torsion operating between them.

Somewhere I saw a diagram of these portraid as concentric rings of even spacing, with a stack of toroidal coils down the center at even spacing. As this begins to resemble more the Morray tube with concentric tubes at specific distance, I feel it note worthy to point out some of the research I am involved in. The laden jar idea reflects a capacitor without regard to the spacing between concentric tubes as having an actual effect on the torsion of the system. Setting the E field into a rotation would seem the only way, but also possibly setting the torsion at the correct angle to interact with the voltage to produce an actual rotating EM wave of some kind.

You guys have identified the keys here I believe, and even something as simple as a current transformer can be used to produce incredible high voltages, with no ability to deliver current to a load. This is a donut of ferrite around a conductor with coils of wire on it, with opened circuit the voltage will skyrocket.

http://magnetism.fateback.com/Matrix.htm

Here is some data we have collected on spacing that gives some kind of torsion effects yet to be conclusivly evaluated by combining it with voltage. I feel at this point that identification of the torsion field is one of the parts we are missing in the alternate energy field.

Hope this stimulates some more thought!

Thanks,
Dave L

[Overmind]

the problem is, the background radiation is not that big here in earth to convert it
to Watts of power in a local point.

I'd say the neutrino radiation it's quite dense and powerful on Earth. The problem is that it's very hard to intercept neutrinos

Without charge and without mass  neutrinos show hardly any interactions with matter and as a consequence they possess the enormous ability of penetration - as is well-known. They are said to participate in the ,,weak interaction", which should trigger a conversion of the concerned particles, which is their decay. Pauli already has postulated the neutrino 1930 theoretically, because the transition from a half-integer spin to an integer spin for the n0 decay otherwise wouldn't have been explicable.

Making a transmitter or a device that can capture neutrinos can prove quite a challenge since the neutrinos don't interact with anything because of their properties. However, the neutrino flux coming from the Sun (and not only) is quite large (67 billion neutrinos /cm^2) and can become a viable power source if correctly intercepted.

[hartiberlin]

However, the neutrino flux coming from the Sun (and not only) is quite large (67 billion neutrinos /cm^2) and can become a viable power source if correctly intercepted.

Maybe this is why the earth inner mass never gets cold and builds Lava and
the earth is growing in size cause this huge mass of the earth is slowing down the Neutrinos
and converts them to mass and heats the earth´s inner mass  up ?

[artursala]

Replying to Hartiberlin & Overmind, I have to say that I have focus my researches with the hypothesis that maybe the origin & source of the energy came from the neutrino radiation, and what is called the "Waterfall of electrons", which supposedly takes place inside the coil of the linden experiment. What we have really clear by the way, is that supposing that the result of the Linden Experiment is true, and lets have faith and assume that, and that's it, the 700 V output, we are pretty sure that the effect should be a resonant effect.

By the way, I truly recommend to everyone, the lecture of Scalar Waves by Konstantin Meyl, which you can read herehttp://www.scribd.com/doc/24773695/Konstantin-Meyl-Scalar-Waves. According to professor's Meyl researches, the electron is a spherical vortex potential, which 511 Kv fall potential from its center to its surface. That's why upper this limit, the High Voltage Transmission presents deep losses, due to the fact that every electron under this high voltage falls in ring like vortex that physics known as the beta decay (it's not exactly this, but for our purpose would be). Just in this crucial moment, and that's the point of what I want to say, the electrons transforms themselves into neutrinos or scalar waves, and thats is the sea of energy in which we all live, & the truly manifestation of the Radiant Energy. This high voltages are pretty easy to find in the surface of the stars, & it seems that the plasma have certain resonant property, & could absorb part of this "elusives" particles. That's why Earth's inner core presents always this high temperatures, which is the most by the way mysterious unsolved problem in geology, and that why the earth grown & grown, as Hartiberlin referred in a previous post, due to this neutrino radiation (aprox 66 billion neutrinos per cm2).

According to professor Meyl, Scalar waves have a critical point of resonance. That's why the seek of this frequencies, became crucial. ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL. I beg to anyone who read this post, to give certain kind of information about this possible frequencies.

Some clues.
Neutrinos are practically massless. Contrary, electrons are 0,511 Mev, & all this energy should be taken over by the neutrino, according to E = mc2 Einstein relation. But is not clear enough, that if in this conversion, the Einstein's relation is applicable for the electron-neutrino conversion, but also vice-versa, that's it, what we are looking for, the desired neutrino to electron conversion, or what is called "the waterfall of electrons".

That's why I concluded that if these assumptions are true, the seek of free energy from magnetic motors, like Newman's, Bedinis etc... became absolutely ruled out, not only for the low COPs they present, but also for the amount of batteries needed, in order to catch the radiant spikes, & store them as negative energy. You may wonder why I'm so sure about this. Well, I have to say that I saw a machine constructed apparently under this principle, in the house of a very enigmatic old men, in the remote town of Cehegin, in Spain. This man, named Honorio Perez Picasso, who presumes in his own words to be practically illiterate, construct a very bizarre machine, that gives and incredible outputs of three-phase 380 Volts of al least 15 Kw & probably much more. This old men, didn't gave to me many clues, or I must say, no clue, or relevant information (typic off all the inventors, keep their secrets to the tomb). If someone's interest in this case, could see this links (in spanish);

http://www.lusired.net/ea4eiu/index.htm?docs%5Cvar%5Ccurios%5CRF-AC.txt
http://www.cochevolador.es/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=36

Sorry for my horrible english, but I mailed from Barcelona, & the amount of information, the staggering difficulty to resume & to understand these, added to my difficulty to translate all of this in a language which is not my native language at all, makes me literally "burn my head".

I hope you will understand me.

At last, Pg 323 325 of scalar waves, regarding to Testatika.

15.9 The Testatika
An electrostatic device, which produces open electric field lines, is situated in Linden in
Switzerland. It optically is very imposing and belongs to a religious community, which
has called it Testatika and is of the opinion that it is a free energy converter.
Inexplicably the Testatika does not serve the community, which generates their electric
power conventionally and to a large extent by itself, as a source of energy. Instead the 2
kW device only very seldom is demonstrated for special occasions or to select groups of
visitors. The religious community after that explains the astonished observers humanity
not yet is mature for the technology.
Perhaps just the opposite is correct and the technology not yet is mature. According to my
personal assessment such an electrostatic device in principle is entirely unsuitable for the
continuous operation.
It can be expected that the open field lines sooner or later will interrelate with the
electricity of the air and thunderstorms are being attracted by the infernal machine so long
until lightning strikes and the demonstration with that has finished. That's why the
Testatika may be switched on only for a short time, only at sure weather situation and not
too humid air, and many a registered visitor has been sent away without having seen the
"thunderstorm machine".
As an object of demonstration and study the Testatika however is well suited. Alone the
circumstance that no cable leads to the device and it nevertheless releases energy in the
order of magnitude of 1 till 2 kW, surprises all visitors. At least the impression is mediated
as if the machine would violate the law of conservation of energy, which is not correct.
The Testatika is similar to an induction machine, which works with friction electricity.
Thereby the unlikely charged bodies do not have to unconditionally touch and rub at each
other, it already is sufficient, if they are brought in the immediate vicinity of each other. In
the case of the Testatika the electrostatics of two against one another rotating discs is
taken off by brushes.
The excitation energy presumably is taken out of the natural E-field, which just like that
can amount to 200 Volts per meter (see chapter 2.9). The large diameter of 80 cm of the
discs and their bad conductivity (acrylic glass) permit this conclusion. The charge taken
off by the brushes afterwards is temporarily stored in two capacitors of 2 Farad at 300
Volt, so-called Leyden jars. This far one actually is reminded of a Wimhurst generator, in
which the energy is supplied the system by turning the disc. Large powers cannot be
drawn by that. Plans to build such an induction machine by yourself have been
published.
In the case of the Testatika however two discs are used and by hand stimulate to rotate
oppositely. This rotational energy in this case isn't used to produce power, otherwise the
discs quickly would stand still again, but that doesn't happen.
Until now apparently no-one has discovered the secret, which is kept strict by the
members of the community. In my opinion the energy situation on our earth however is
too serious, as that we would be able to afford playing hide-and-seek and egoistical
secretiveness.

15.10 The secret of the Testatika
The crucial point is the opposite direction of rotation of both discs. If we assume the static
earth electric field is the cause and serves as an excitation field, then as an effect a field
arises, which stands perpendicular to that. The axial component now points out of the
centre of the disc.
In the case of only one disc the field lines in front and behind the disc again are closed, so
that no open lines can form. With one disc or with two discs rotating in the same direction
hence no unknown charges can be attracted.
In the case of two oppositely rotating discs however shows one component along the axis
of rotation to the observer, that of the other disc exactly in the opposite direction. In that
way between both discs a pole is ,,pinned", which no longer is able to close all field lines
on the outside around the machine. Thus open field lines and a, however incomplete,
unipolar arrangement are formed.
The charge carriers sucked from the electricity of the air as a result support the natural
electrostatics and speedy recharge the capacitors, even if up to 10 Amperes are taken out
by the consumers.
The ingenious thing of the machine is its extremely simple construction and the simple
concept.
If one includes the collected particles also in the balance sheet of energy, then it thus will
turn out that the law of conservation of energy is not violated at all. There thus can't be
talked of free energy. In this context the Testatika may rather be given as a
counterexample. Air ions are the carriers of the electricity of the air and not carriers of
free energy.
Negative air ions are indispensable for our welfare. One should only remember the first
men in space, who after the landing were pulled out of their capsule more dead than alive,
after they had to stay in the unhealthy atmosphere of the capsule for a longer period of
time. Only the installation of ionising devices for negative air ions made possible longer
staying in space.
The taking out of the air of negative ions hence is not unproblematic and not particularly
ecologically compatible. An atmosphere harmful to life is formed which Dr. Wilhelm
Reich has called DOR-state. He by the way has designed a Cloud-Buster, with which he
could take static electricity, forming above the desert sand, out of the air. In that way the
negatively charged rain clouds no longer are repelled and driven away. Reich has tested
his weather machine 1954 in the desert of Arizona. After he had freed the atmosphere of
the ,,DOR-strain", as he expressed himself, in the desert area the atmospheric humidity
steadily increased from 15% up to 95%, there grew prairie grass and everything started to
turn green, and eventually after many years for the first time rain fell again.
Static electricity, as far as the right polarity is chosen, may conditionally be used for the
mechanics of rain making. For free energy concepts it however isn't suitable. Already
Nikola Tesla has pointed to the circumstance that our hopes will be in vain if the free
energy would be of static nature (see fig. 9.5). He in his speech, which he gave 1891
before the AIEE, has left no doubt that free energy exists, which is kinetic and with that
energy technically usable for us,.
Chapter 16 will be occupied solely with this case.

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[gauschor]

Don't know if anyone mentioned it already, but could it be that the Testatika simply puts its electrostatic charges via a spark gap into a tesla coil (such as the pictures of jorge resines show), transforming it into high frequency and therefore probably getting enough to light a bulb?

Or would that even work in theory?