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Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU

Started by otto, April 17, 2007, 02:32:36 AM

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Bruce_TPU

#195
June 06, 2007, 03:02:08 PM
@ Grumpy
@ Hoppy

Why not just take an hour and wind the coil and try it for yourself and post the results.  You have both the equipment and know how to do this.  I plan on doing likewise.  Otto is not dumb, and would not be saying all that he has been if he were not seeing incredible results. 

So, ya know, just build the thing and chill. 

It is just the beginning I agree, but we must walk before we run... ;)

I saw a saying today that I liked very much.  It said, "A good leader knows when it is time to follow."  And I say, for now, let us follow Otto with accurate replication and go from there.  Perhaps we shall be very happily surprised.  I for one expect this.  If not, then so be it.

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

chrisC

#196
June 06, 2007, 03:21:44 PM
@Grumpy

Why make such a fuss when all you should be doing is spend 30 minutes like what Otto had suggested: "BUILD THE THING!"

If AFTER you built it according to the specs. Otto released and you can't replicate it then you have the right to bitch!  If you can't make it work as prescribed than you can certainly ask questions?

I just wished I have the simplest equipment to start replicating. I don't even have a solder iron or working bench at this time!

Regards

chrisC

Grumpy

#197
June 06, 2007, 03:47:53 PM
@btenzer
@chrisC

In case you have not been following closely, Otto already built it and is the person claiming to have a working TPU - despite the power supply connected to it.

The fact that Otto can not or will not provide input an output power is a reason to bitch about the claim.  As I have told Otto before, lighting a damn bulb is not a definitive test and certainly not enough to claim you have a working TPU, especially when you are supplying a few amps of current from a damn power supply! 

So, why don't all of you pull your heads out of your asses and see with your minds that this is not a working TPU!!!

I'd rather buid the bifilar induction coil light bulb lighter - at least I know that will work!

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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chrisC

#198
June 06, 2007, 04:08:21 PM
@Grumpy

Maybe you're the one that has not been following this closely. You took the time to reproduce the final circuit. Right? So in that final circuit, is that lamp connected anywhere to a DC path from the pulsating frequencies?

So, if Otto told you there as x amps measured at the input pulses power supply and the magic magnetic power is at the collector output and it's a huge magnitude difference from what the input is measured, all you have to do is to verify that it is true? Can you not do that without bitching?

What the heck is wrong with you?

ChrisC

turbo

#199
June 06, 2007, 04:23:23 PM
Quote from: Grumpy on June 06, 2007, 03:47:53 PM
@btenzer
@chrisC

In case you have not been following closely, Otto already built it and is the person claiming to have a working TPU - despite the power supply connected to it.

The fact that Otto can not or will not provide input an output power is a reason to bitch about the claim.  As I have told Otto before, lighting a damn bulb is not a definitive test and certainly not enough to claim you have a working TPU, especially when you are supplying a few amps of current from a damn power supply! 

So, why don't all of you pull your heads out of your asses and see with your minds that this is not a working TPU!!!

I'd rather buid the bifilar induction coil light bulb lighter - at least I know that will work!



i have to totally agree with Grumpy here.
it is not hard to lite up a bulb, i have showed you all more then once.
it get's intresting when we can disconnect the power supply and the bulb will still lite.

HOWEVER,
let us not go into the argue region any more we need the damn tech and evereybody who is willing and who thinks he can add something to the project must be able to speak up without backfire of any sort.

my last coil is running here in front of me.
it's 3 frequency's independant adjustable thrue 6 variable resistors switched thrue 3 irf n- channels hooked to a big supply and i am still searching for a sweet spot.

Let's just hope somebody finds the right setup and is willing to let us all know how to make the violin sing, this is what we all want, isn't it...?

Marco








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