Barbat low inertial mass generator

[hansvonlieven]

I am not discounting the patent Tak,

I do feel that Barbat does not disclose sufficient data to replicate the device, if he had actually built one.

Perhaps the patent here will help somewhat. It deals with the formation of cuprous oxide by electrodeposition.

Hans von Lieven

[tak22]

Here's another link that describes a DIY method for taking copper through the two oxidation stages of cuprous oxide Cu2O and cupric oxide CuO. It's goal is cuprous oxide for a solar cell, but there are clues if youare aiming for cupric oxide instead:

"When the burner is glowing red-hot, the sheet of copper will be coated with a black cupric oxide coat. Let it cook for a half an hour, so the black coating will be thick. This is important, since a thick coating will flake off nicely, while a thin coat will stay stuck to the copper. After the half hour of cooking, turn off the burner. Leave the hot copper on the burner to cool slowly. If you cool it too quickly, the black oxide will stay stuck to the copper. "

http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/echem/echem2.html#solarcell

I'm going to have to try this as the "naturally' oxidized copper wire that I've been suggesting we can use is obviously wrong. I repeat, disregard my suggestion to get scrap copper, I was wrong! I'll edit my previous posts with this correction.

tak

[hansvonlieven]

If it is cupric oxide you are after there is an easy process to do this. This does NOT involve the formation of a cuprous oxide layer underneath and does not require heat. You simply immerse the copper in a solution of Liver of Sulphur (Sulphurated potash) leave it until the copper is really black, rinse well with clean water and leave to dry and harden for a day or so.

You can get the stuff in almost any craft supply store that caters for people making jewellery. The stuff will oxidise most metals.

http://www.rjsintl.com/productDetails.asp?product_id=L30

Hans von Lieven.

[Rosphere]

...immerse the copper in a solution of Liver of Sulphur ...
You can get the stuff in almost any craft supply store that caters for people making jewellery. The stuff will oxidise most metals.

I had read all about this Potassium Sulfide, K2S.  I phoned a bunch of local craft stores.  None of them had it, or had even heard of it.  (One nice lady told me to try tomato juice.)  I found a bottle of Liver of Sulfur on the internet for three dollars and eight dollars shipping in four to six days.  I did not want to wait another weekend and I would feel,... dirty..., paying over twice the product cost in shipping charges.

When I phoned a local hobby store, they did not carry it either.  They suggested the Blacken-It product, which I tried.

Maybe it worked too well.  I blackened a sample and measured an additional 10 thousandth of a millimeter in diameter; 0.005mm thick film.  This may not seem like much, but on an atomic scale this may be far too many "atomic layers" deep for the photon interaction to affect the copper below.  Perhaps a quick dip in a diluted solution is all that is required,... or necessary. 

[tak22]

stay tuned for more cupric oxide forming methods ..........

I've been researching like crazy and have found many methods, just have to find so more time to write them up, probably later tomorrow.

tak