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Multi-Fuels Processor (by Paul Pantone)

Started by sulake, May 06, 2007, 12:54:10 PM

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sulake

Hello all,

does anybody have any experience of Paul Pantone's Multi-Fuels Processor?

It's fuel is mixed water and hydrocarbure (hydrocarbon derived liquids).
J-L Naudin has tested and it works with mixture of 20% hydrocarbons and 80% water.

My question is, when he states that it runs on 20/80 mixture, is all liquids consumed when motor is run until fuel goes out?
If water is still left, it does not run on 20/80 mixture but it just vaporizes the gasoline off the water and runs basically on vaporized gasoline.

The drawing gives an impression that the construction could easily work like a distilling apparatus and mostly the gasoline is vaporized first and that hot air run through water does not make electrolysis nor hydrogen...? Or does it?
When you boil water on cattle, you got steam, not hydrogen right?
http://jlnlabs.imars.com/bingofuel/images/jlnmfpds.gif

Before I start converting my brand new -87  :) mazda to run on Multi-Fuels Processor, I would like to be sure that it works..  ;D
I will test next week how a basic hydrogen/oxygen electrolysis affects on gas mileage, sence it's much easier to implement.

http://jlnlabs.imars.com/bingofuel/pmcjlnen.htm

IronHead

Be careful with this one . I have blown a few things up with the Geet system.
and thats easy to do when you are heating fuel , water and air all together in the same area .
Fuel vapor, if you add steam to the process and run the two through stainless steel at the right temps, the gasoline will crack to Methyl Alcohol and Methane Gas.
This is a gasoline catalytic cracking system. Fuel company's have put additives in gasoline so this can no longer occur under these conditions.


You can still vaporize fuel .

You need to get the gasoline up to 800* F to do this ,so that it fully vaporizes. There will still be parts of the fuel that will not vaporize and you will have some sludge . So a sludge chamber is a must. One that can be cleaned out. Problem is the sludge is from newer type fuel additives , such as MTBA and  highly poisons when in a pure form like this. This additive was added so that you can not catalytically crack the fuel (Maybe), or at least make it much harder to do so.

The idea is to find area in the exhaust system that maintains 800F or so degrees . If you go above 900  she will blow . Below about 780 and you start to lose some critical components of the fuel.

I have  a few working schematics of different types to do this and have been proven .
These schematics show techniques in Insulation , Chambering, Line coil design Fuel delivery ...

IronHead

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@IronHead
have u posted it somewhere already(i mean those schematics?) could be usefull to have a look on those.Currently i am working on partial cracking of LPG,it has no additives.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4414.msg87602.html#msg87602

@sulake

i think his system is simply vaporising the fuel.vaporising fuel is improving your mileage for sure,it is a fact.
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