New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

[AB Hammer]

Charlie

Thinking about the break. The only way it might take that many turns for the break is if he is using a screw plunger for a hydraulic system. For a mechanical screw break even with fine threads would only take a turn or two.

[noonespecial]

Hi AB,

That's true. But what I think Bob is doing is backing off the brake much farther than necessary just to start the machine. Then, quite clearly in the video, tightening it again to control the speed. In fact, this is what he states in the video.
If he is using the brake as a speed control you would want as fine a control as possible. If the caliper is a scissor-type of caliper this would provide the greatest braking leverage and control and yes, many more turns. So again, no discrepancy.

Maybe Bob will correct me if I'm wrong.

Regards,
Charlie

[LarryC]

@Ralph,


Comment from Bob in reply #83:

The compressor in the movie is what I was the machine was driving to do some usefull work. The machine wasn't ballanced and the board that is moveing is used as a shelf or small table.
There are no hoses or airlines conected to it.

There has been a lot of speculation about the various items in his shop. I'm going to take Bob's word about this until I'm proven wrong.


What about those so called latches on the compression springs, I fail to see any! And are the bellows from here?

The latch mechanism on my Irwin clamp is a metal bar with a slit that has a slant on each edge and it jams the bar, but releases with a slight twist force. I suspect a similar simple setup is used and would not be very visible. It may be inside the metal support block.

The ridges of the bellow cover or bellow shock can be seen just to the top left of the center. I'm sure he needed to use something more compact than the springs in the center due to space restriction. Also, the air shocks would be of the type with no rebound and the air could be stored and released as needed for the 8"+.


My main concern and reasoning for delay is that a lot of this information is not compatible with the visualization we have in the videos and still shots.

His machine is almost twice as wide as mine, approx. 20", but my levers are very close to his specs. If my machine was the same width and was in the position of the photo you would not be able to see the levers sticking out, only close to full top or bottom would it show. I don't have his 6/36" leaver, trying to figure out how to fit it in back, but it would not show either since it is only used over 15 degrees.

I may end up with the pneumatic as it may be the only way to apply the needed force for the 8"+. But this would be very difficult for me to implement.

Regards, Larry

[noonespecial]

@all

The only other comment I wish to make at this point is that we have Bob's statement that his latest machine is no less than the ninth variant of his original concept. Therefore, making assumptions based on a couple of stills and video is risky when we don't know exactly where these fall in the evolutionary pathway of his design.

Regards,
Charlie

[rlortie]

@Larry,

you wrote: I may end up with the pneumatic as it may be the only way to apply the needed force for the 8"+. But this would be very difficult for me to implement

A fine example of why I stated in a previous post to Bob:  The number of people that would be capable of building the machine for individual use is infinitesimal. The financial % that would be lost in sales of his machine would be so insignificant that it would not even be noticeable. Once again I reiterate, Why if he has his Patent or Patent pending number is he not coming forward. with the announcement.

I have been informed allegedly that Bob once signed a contract and disclosure statement with a Hot House patent company, you know the type that advertise on TV "Inventors wanted"  Of course it ended up with them demanding start up fees from Bob. So consider that he has already been BURNED once!  So is he being cautious, you bet he is!  My attempt to reason with him is...  If you build a better mouse trap the people will beat a path to your door. A very old adage, but the only improvement it needs is advertising, leading to public knowledge.  Bob need not lay out one thin Canadian Dime if he can display a self-sustaining machine. Investors will cover all costs of patenting, start-up and production.

Having been involved in over-unity research as long as I have, one  phone call is all I need, stating that I have a self-runner,  investors will be knocking on my door in  less than 48 hours.  Why? because they know I will not call until I have a verified documented runner.   

On another related  note; Remember Bob wrote a post aimed at me stating; "would you just give it away, I  do not think so". With that thought in mind, how much of the information released do you feel is viable?  If he is not going to give, then obviously he is either not telling all or he is leading the 'doers' down a dead end path!  Best wait and see!

That does not mean you should stop attempting to duplicate, simply apply your own innovative thoughts where you feel they are applicable. If Bob continues to drag his feet then you may be the one to beat him to the punch!  As per Larry's above quote, I recommend or suggest  that only those with knowledge and capability of fabricating a double acting hydraulic or pneumatic system with the required knowledge of transference (valve reciprocation) attempt to follow Bob's design.     

This one arm bandit concept needs a turbocharger in the form of an outside energy source.  Once improved upon, one must hope that the gross output will be sufficient to provide the input leaving a net force for other usage. 

Regarding the brake release scenario; A 1/4 x 20 piece of all-thread will move one full inch in 20 turns. A caliper disk brake requires only a few thousands of travel.

Ralph Lortie