Chas Campbell free power motor

[Mem]

@Hum

Does anyone have the plans for Chas's machine so we can consider replicating it.

If you go back to past threts you'll  see what Ash was saying (First week of Sep. he is going to see him and documant he's invention and yes Chas want's people to dublicate he's invention.

Watts here is those modules: http://www.sitechina.com/thermoelectric/Pspec.html

Chas said:

I tried very hard to create enough interest in my invention to be able to fund the end product but i feel i am wasting my time so hopefully one of you good people will have more luck then me ,as for testing one of my original machines it would be a waste of time as no mater who tested it it would not satisfy everybody thanks for your interest and good luck,Chas
PS I would like this passed on to as many as possible.

More here http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Chas_Campbell_Generator

Mem

[hansvonlieven]

G'day ashtweth and all,

The child on a swing phenomenon is caused by a shift of the centre of gravity on the pendulum (swing) in phase with its natural frequency of oscillations. One way of tapping this is proposed in the Milkovic device though not exactly like you imagine.

Have a look at my paper on Harnessing Secondary Oscillations on http://www.keelytech.com/news.html where this is discussed.

It might give you some ideas.

Hans von Lieven

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

You guys RAWK.

@mark,  i think the best thing to do ATM, as Chas doesn't want too many people there, is to get a replication going and submit it for the NEC verification, get some one we trust, not an OIL man, Chas is an old man and we should take away any efforts needed on his behalf.

Will mention to Chas as well, as  Earl asked me too, bottom line tho we will get what Chas has offered to us when there and go from there.

@Hans

Mate that is EXACTLY what we need to add to the web page and explanation /video on the day to present to the mainstream, i am writing the video script now.

I knew all you guys working together like Stefan, Mem, Hum and all would be un stoppable , thats why My non profit org is attempting to get you guys a HOME, ( a resourced backed research and development center)
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/ResearchandDevelopment.htm

Chas's GIFT may get you all that BTW, no where else are there engineers like you guys working on our children's future.

YOU Guys like it or not are humanities only hope, and are above the rest.
We need to consolidate the world open sourced engineers, and change our course.


@Mem

> Take Chas?s invention and install a prime mover using a 7.5 HP RV  motor?  As we all know 7.5 HP RV Motor uses only 65 to 70 Watts of input power (in a idle mode)

We have this and many RV's available waiting to show Chas, the RV drive motor is the most efficient motor, plus i feel Freq driving it will stop Chas's system from De tuning!
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=9089608413203959523

[Humbugger]

@Hum

If Chas's wheel machine ran in a closed box, and you measured the heat generated and added that to the output, could this count also in the final results?

I have always been curious about the heat.

I think it was on peswiki or something that I saw a new device chip waffer or something that made electricity from heat. What if the drive motor and generator were covered with these also. Take some of that energy and return it to source.

Or maybe I'm just trying to draw water from a rock.

Well, if you put any stock in classic thermodynamic laws, every machine is exactly 100% efficient total-energy-wise.  That would count, heat, sound, vibration, light and all other forms of energy output compared to total energy input.  If the law of energy conservation is shown to be invalid, I guess anything goes!

Most machines are designed for a certain purpose and efficiency is then measured in that context.  For instance, we would be very thrilled if jet engines were developed which made no sound and spewed no heat.  Efficiency in terms of fuel vs thrust would be improved unless some other form of energy output that was not adding to the purpose of thrust were to increase, according to thermodynamics. 

Typical design goals for most machines involve converting energy from a single form to another single form.  So efficiency is usually expressed in those terms only.  Energy outputs not in the desired form are called "losses", though no energy is actually lost.

For OU research purposes, in an effort to prove OU operation, it would be fair to include every form of energy output, although you can see how non-trivial it is just to get accurate electrical metrics.  Imagine the task of accurately measuring the output noise, vibration, heat, light, e/m radiation, etc.   The vast majority of science monies spent have to do directly with constructing experiments which allow the theoretical proposals to be tested and results measured accurately.  That's the name of the game in science.

Classic "Peltier plates" and some similar newer solid state approaches to heat-to-electricity conversion do certainly exist, although the best conversion efficiencies reported seem to be below thirty percent, as I recall.  And that number is for rather high temperature differences, like 400C.  For modest temp diffs of 20-30C as found in electrical equipment, I think 10-15 percent would be doing well.

Humbugger

[wattsup]

@Mem

Thanks for the link. I sent them an e-mail.

I also looked on Peswiki and found the one I was talking about.
http://www.eneco.com/app_rwh.html

Check what they are saying.

@Hum

Thanks for your input as usual. So I guess if OU is to be properly measured, then every type of energy produced can be taken into account and by doing so, this brings devices more closer to OU.  Then the question is how to measure such energy dissipations and place them in a total wattage equivalent. That will be the duzzy.