The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?

[Thaelin]

Hi All:
   Did a small test tonite of a bifilar wound coil. Reason I feel it belongs here as well is that the internal core is, you guessed it, aluminum solid 1/4". Was mainly seeing what would be the difference with an AL core as opposed to a CU core. Well output around 80v. Signals input from opposite ends.
   Now this is the part that is weird. Rod is 24" long with 4 layers of twin #20 stranded. Scope is on each end of the rod. This AL thing is starting to push my imagination around a bit. Anyhow, Bruce... so here is two ocurances of the opposite signal injection showing great results.

The other coil was the same idea but bifilar wound on a pitsfield coil with a whole lot of turns of wire wound around the center hole at 90 degrees to the bifilar pair.

sugra

[duff]

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[jacob]

I am testing all of the types possible of configurations.
Attempts and mistakes. And in this it goes and it comes I saw strange things.
The capacitors seem to hold the load for 12v to 16v. This dissipating energy.

The reason voltage seems to stay constant at 12 to 16 volts for a longer time is caracteristic of the normal discharge curve of a capacitor. But it probably dies out eventually. Much faster if a load is applied. My guesss is that brnbrade is currently trying to feed back some of the output voltage toward the input to keep the device operating, and until he succeeds, he's unwilling to post a definitive configuration, because it keeps changing.

Still, we know that the basic principle is solid since it rest on a 140 years old patent. There is much experimenting do be done here...

Jacob

[z_p_e]

@ Bruce.

I was hoping to here from our friend on my question, but in the mean time, thank you for the mind-meld response.

Regarding the FET's, so you are saying that SM's use of tubes was key because they suppress the leading-edge spikes and damped oscillations?

Yes, that is possible, and thanks for bringing that up. Sometimes you DO surprise me. 

However, keep in mind that the response on the tube Plate or FET Drain is largely dependant on what they are driving, i.e. an inductor, resistive load, a tank load etc. For example, you will be hard pressed to find spikes or damped oscillations with a FET driving a pure resistive load....same with a tube. Insert an inductor with a finite self-capcitance though, and watch the wave-show! As you say though, perhaps a tube is less susceptable to these due to rounding of the corners at the top.

If this is the case, I have some experience in achieving this effect. Perhaps I'll play with it and see if I can do it.

Cheers,
Darren

[jacob]

Starting up may be a problem if the two signals with just the right phase relationship are not known. Better to hit it with some random signal and see what happens?

BEP,

You have to think differently about this. There is no need to inject signals into this device. This is a self multi-oscillating circuit which develops its own frequencies. All that is needed according to the inventor is to apply a magnetic field. That's why it can theorically be started with just a permanent magnet. Therefore it's important to fully understand and control this process because it is closely related to the startup mechanism of the TPU.

I can't believe that this thread was moved out of the TPU forum section.

@ Stefan

Could you please reinsert this thread  where it rightfully belongs. The McFarland patent was brought to the attention of everyone in the Steven Mark, master of magnetics thread last year. Here is the original post. It has always be a fundamental part of an integral replication of the TPU and still is.

Guys,

You have to look at this attached pdf file about US patent 119825 issued in... 1871. I found this thanks to a link posted by lynx2000. It is extremely interesting. Here are a few quotes from it:

"My invention relates to the combination of two or more simple or compound helices (coils - i.e.: control coils) and iron cores (collectors) or magnets in such a manner as to produce a constant electric current without the aid of a galvanic battery."

About the collector equivalent:

"The iron core may be a solid bar or a bundle of iron wire (i.e.: multi-strand wire), the latter giving higher tension..."

And guess how we start the power generation process with this setup...

"The mode of producing or starting the action in the helices consist in the use of a steel (i.e.: permanent) or electro-magnet..."

This thing can be started with a magnet!!!! And it is physically identical to the TPU : an outer coil, an inner coil, and a collector. Plus, it is easy to build, so easy to test.

Enjoy!

Jacob

Jacob