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Spinor resonance -- explanation for TPU like devices

Started by MarkSnoswell, July 14, 2007, 09:17:10 PM

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ronotte

Hi Mark,

I do con firm that static +VDC bias is VERY important to extract power from our rings. Yesterday evening I did some easy tests on my ECD using, for the moment +12V bias on an additional ECD winding...leaving one coil end free....well there certainly is an output power increase!   (load connected to the Mobius ring collector) I wonder what will happen just applyng +200V or more as I don't know if this acceleration effect on electrons moving on collector is directly proportional..if I remember well it should be. So I invite all that are replicating ECD to try.

Another point I'd like to ask Mark is about the correct way to apply the DC potential. Actually I'm thinking that I could make use of part of the ECD output itself ....putting a separation diode and a capacitor I do obtain  more than thousand DC voltage.

Roberto

Earl

Hi Roberto,

if the +12V goes to one end of a coil, where does the -12V of the power supply connect?

Regards, Earl

Quote from: ronotte on July 17, 2007, 05:24:42 AM
Hi Mark,
I do con firm that static +VDC bias is VERY important to extract power from our rings. Yesterday evening I did some easy tests on my ECD using, for the moment +12V bias on an additional ECD winding...leaving one coil end free....well there certainly is an output power increase! [snip]
Roberto
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ronotte

@Earl,

to ground as in that case  I was using the same PS.

I may give you a sketch if any doubt on configuration.

Regards

Roberto

otto

Hello all,

maybe you dont know or know this already:

I saw a lot of times that a coil can be pulsed and used with both ends connected or just connect 1 end of a coil. This I saw with control coils and with collectors. Of course, the current from the power supply consumed for powering this coils is decreased but the effects are almost the same.

Otto

MarkSnoswell

In response to questions on where to apply DC bias and drive (control) coils.

DC bias will help on the collector coils -- or whatever the active output part of your device is.
When working with high frequencies it's pretty easy to inductively or capacitivly decouple the output coil (collector) from the load. You can then bias up your output (collector) coil to whatever the safe design limits are for your coupling. That will make perfect sense to anyone with practical electrical design experience -- if it doesn?t then learn some more -- sorry to be blunt, but it's not only safety isolation you need to consider but also the power dissipation in the couplers... so if it doesn?t make sense to you play safe and learn some more...

If there is someone listing with a good depth of practical EE experience with stuff like this please step in and make some specific recommendations and point people to learning references. I'd love to cover all of this but my time is limited -- I am sort of on leave this week but my free time is already running out.


As for drive (control) coils -- there are three separate coils. This is not where things combine and you don?t want to bias these up. You don?t want to drive a current through them either! ... you just need the potential wavefront (I think spin-front) down them -- so they can be open ended. The only practical reason for not leaving them open ended is that you want to bring them back down to ground before firing the next voltage spike through them. Ideally you put fast switches (mosfets or valves) on both ends -- you drive from one end with the other closed and then open the other end to bring the potential back down fast. ... but frankly this is probably overkill. It's better to design the drive coils with as little inductance and capacitance as possible and terminate them with the maximum resistance you can to bring the potential back down fast without any current reversal... but I suspect that the optimum pulse widths are going to be so far below what can be easily achieved that there will be a significant "normal" current flow that follows the initial voltage front -- and this would best be dealt with a matched impedance to the drive coil to minimize reflected current.

... sorry if I lost people there. If you did follow you are probably experienced enough to be smiling and thinking to yourself "just suck it and see"... at least it helps to know what to expect even if you have to do as much experimentation as a novice. We are looking for novel effects after all -- so it's new territory for everyone.

... hm, that was a bit tongue in cheek. Seriously though. If you didn't follow all of that then I really recommend that you find a local friend that you can work with. Old ham radio guys with lots of experience with valves and antennas -- or, (not to leave out the serious players ;),  a high power laser or accelerator physicist with lots of experience with fast pulse supplies. I also found that transmission power engineers are full of practical experience. Whoever ? just make sure they have lots of *practical* experience, not just book learning.

Woa! ?  that was and indulgent  long ramble ? too little sleep  and too much caffeine. Got to go attend to that long list of things I should really be doing if I?m not ?working?.

Mark.
Dr Mark Snoswell.
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