Tubes?

[Mannix]

Like a damn "soap opera" in here. 

SM used tubes to determine the frequencies - detectors.  Something about SS being too slow to see them.  Once this task was done - no tubes.

Very sharp pulses will create harmonics in the microwave region.

If one digs a little deeper, they will also find that HF and RF "noise" outside the device can reach high levels..high enough to disrupt the operation of SS devices. Hence the need to keep them in the ring.

Tubes are not susceptible to this type of interference (why does the Russian military still use tube equipment?) and therefore allow for better and sustained control of the frequencies being applied to make catalyst.

Obviously the speed of SS is not the real issue here, but their stability in noisy environments is. Incidentally, IR has a line of MOSFETs that are "radiation hardened", and are meant primarily for space applications. Perhaps there are other IC's out there that also fall under this category.

@Grumpy,

Welcome to the "soap opera". Any constructive contributions are most welcome.

Cheers,
Darren

I suppose you've never heard of "time dilation" - which is associated with RMF's.

Do you think that the interference produced would only be outside the ring and not inside too?  If it were just "RF noise" couldn't these components be shielded? 

Of course they could be shielded but surely we are talking about a physical experiment that will have components placed here and there....a rats nest so to speak.

Any body who has tinkered with new circuits would under stand the practical implications here.

Demonstrating one's inability to see the practical application of the best advice that has been given does not assist any body. the opposite is more likely the case.

Nobody here is an expert but Please, Mr Grump, If you have useful information or a good source I suggest that you let us know so that we can get on the right path as you see it.

Im not sure if you have made anything yet but I could be wrong.

I do not know anything about your sight so I wont comment on it but my eyes are not as good as they used to be, that is true.

oops !  I dropped the soap....again!

             I politely ask that we keep this thread on using tubes.

It is vital that we play this out.

If you do dot think that it is important then start, yet another one."Close" the group if you think that will help.

@EM,
Yes it is possible that you are absolutely right about that context.

it is the interesing things about the out of phase transformers that I am interested in.

[Grumpy]

Of course they could be shielded but surely we are talking about a physical experiment that will have components placed here and there....a rats nest so to speak.

Any body who has tinkered with new circuits would under stand the practical implications here.

You absolutely don't get it.  Your mental block is so effective that you are oblivious.  I am truly amazed - never seen a block so effective - truly amazed.

SM should get a Nobel Prize for patience.

Demonstrating one's inability to see the practical application of the best advice that has been given does not assist any body. the opposite is more likely the case.

Inability?  It is you that is blind.  Havne't you noticed that SM says some thing many different ways, but avoids certain words?  Like there are words he can't say.

Nobody here is an expert but Please, Mr Grump, If you have useful information or a good source I suggest that you let us know so that we can get on the right path as you see it.

Im not sure if you have made anything yet but I could be wrong.

I do not know anything about your sight so I wont comment on it but my eyes are not as good as they used to be, that is true.

oops !  I dropped the soap....again!

             I politely ask that we keep this thread on using tubes.

It is vital that we play this out.

If you do dot think that it is important then start, yet another one."Close" the group if you think that will help.

@EM,
Yes it is possible that you are absolutely right about that context.

it is the interesing things about the out of phase transformers that I am interested in.

Mannix,
You do not know what RE is.  You do not know why tubes would detect something SS can not.  You do not know why SM uses three frequences or how he applies them.  Why does a TPU work at all?

Seek to understand the underlying principles of the TPU.  Only then will you succeed.   This applies to everyone.

[Mannix]

Of course they could be shielded but surely we are talking about a physical experiment that will have components placed here and there....a rats nest so to speak.

Any body who has tinkered with new circuits would under stand the practical implications here.

You absolutely don't get it.  Your mental block is so effective that you are oblivious.  I am truly amazed - never seen a block so effective - truly amazed.

SM should get a Nobel Prize for patience.

Demonstrating one's inability to see the practical application of the best advice that has been given does not assist any body. the opposite is more likely the case.

Inability?  It is you that is blind.  Havne't you noticed that SM says some thing many different ways, but avoids certain words?  Like there are words he can't say.

Nobody here is an expert but Please, Mr Grump, If you have useful information or a good source I suggest that you let us know so that we can get on the right path as you see it.

Im not sure if you have made anything yet but I could be wrong.

I do not know anything about your sight so I wont comment on it but my eyes are not as good as they used to be, that is true.

oops !  I dropped the soap....again!

             I politely ask that we keep this thread on using tubes.

It is vital that we play this out.

If you do dot think that it is important then start, yet another one."Close" the group if you think that will help.

@EM,
Yes it is possible that you are absolutely right about that context.

it is the interesing things about the out of phase transformers that I am interested in.

Mannix,
You do not know what RE is.  You do not know why tubes would detect something SS can not.  You do not know why SM uses three frequences or how he applies them.  Why does a TPU work at all?

Seek to understand the underlying principles of the TPU.  Only then will you succeed.   This applies to everyone.

Thats right   DO YOU ?

perhaps you could give us a practical experiment that you have done that will show the right direction.

Of course it it possible the you have something to offer the tube users..please, sincerely, do so and stop being  "grumpy".

I dont claim to be an expert. If there is something that i am missing please put me straight.

[Super God]

As long as you follow what SM said, you know, the basics: moving magnetic field + coil = energy.  There you go, that's how it works.  Now all we need to do is find out HOW it makes it's moving magnetic field so powerful.  People have mentioned in this thread that they are having a much easier time with their tubes than with SS devices.  On the right track?  I think so.  Until I get my own tubes and experiment I have no room to talk though.

[innovation_station]

as i recall the rotational field is a byproduct of the freqs combinng with the right timeing

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