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Tubes?

Started by Super God, July 18, 2007, 06:46:18 PM

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innovation_station

hi all i would like to say that i have seen an amazing amount of power come from an aa battery from the flash of a disposable camra 

i can still say that im in ahhh still from that simple circuit it cost me 3 bucks at the dollar store

lets just say if that kind of power can come fromm 1.5v aa battery  i think nothing is imposible any more

ist
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

EMdevices

I like the posting marco, very nice.

If I may, I would like to point out that SM was making a specific point with his tube posting.

I don't think there is FE involved and I'm not saying to not experiment with tubes.Ã, 

CanÃ,  you guess what that point was?Ã,  Hint HintÃ,  :)

The point I wish to make here is that also along with the 500 volt DC is, yes, you guessed it, the 5 volts three amp AC current! They are both completely independent of each other except for some very interesting things I will mention to you some other time..
First of all, obviously you can have several different output components in the power output signal. You can have DC and AC together without any problem. Why did that mystery person claim that it was foolish to say DC output with a 5k Hz component? Because he was deliberately trying to mislead anyone who might want to figure out what I was doing.



So the point is guys SM was just defending himself and answering a critic so not everything SM says is somehow a clue of how his device works, per say.  Ã,  We can get so sidetracked easily if we don't read everything in context.Ã,   Not that it's bad to get sidetracked once in a while, we might learn something we never knew and will benefit us down the road.

EM

Grumpy

Quote from: z_p_e on August 24, 2007, 08:36:55 AM
Quote from: Grumpy on August 24, 2007, 12:02:33 AM
Like a damn "soap opera" in here. 

SM used tubes to determine the frequencies - detectors.  Something about SS being too slow to see them.  Once this task was done - no tubes.

Very sharp pulses will create harmonics in the microwave region.

If one digs a little deeper, they will also find that HF and RF "noise" outside the device can reach high levels..high enough to disrupt the operation of SS devices. Hence the need to keep them in the ring.

Tubes are not susceptible to this type of interference (why does the Russian military still use tube equipment?) and therefore allow for better and sustained control of the frequencies being applied to make catalyst.

Obviously the speed of SS is not the real issue here, but their stability in noisy environments is. Incidentally, IR has a line of MOSFETs that are "radiation hardened", and are meant primarily for space applications. Perhaps there are other IC's out there that also fall under this category.

@Grumpy,

Welcome to the "soap opera". Any constructive contributions are most welcome.

Cheers,
Darren

I suppose you've never heard of "time dilation" - which is associated with RMF's.

Do you think that the interference produced would only be outside the ring and not inside too?  If it were just "RF noise" couldn't these components be shielded? 

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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innovation_station

guys anyone here that can translate from german to english  i have looked on the net and found translators but they are just not clear enough for me to understand all that was written

i recieved a pm to day from a good guy here but unfourtinaly i can not understand what he is telling me makes me sad i need help to convert to english so i can undersatand what he says


help anyone?

ist

pm me if you can help me out thanks much
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

z_p_e

QuoteI suppose you've never heard of "time dilation" - which is associated with RMF's.

Do you think that the interference produced would only be outside the ring and not inside too?  If it were just "RF noise" couldn't these components be shielded?

You would suppose incorrectly. Anyway, I was expecting this "relativistic" response.

Keeping the electronics located within the ring will minimize these effects.

There are in fact two effects at play here: "noise" and "time dilation". They are not necessarily related to each other (no pun).

Noise includes both transverse and longitudinal, so no, not all noise can be shielded. EMP's are capable of "taking out" most electronics for 10's of kilometers for example. No I am not saying the TPU produces noise at this intensity, but the point is shielding is not always 100% effective.

Relativistic effects in this case involve moving fields. An intense fluctuating magnetic field caused by the rapid RMF could constitue a mild EMP in the TPU, and locating the electronics inside the ring, especially in the exact centre, would minimize if not eliminate the disruptive influence.