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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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hansvonlieven

G'day all,

Even if there was a convincing video, what would that prove? That Godzilla is real?

Let us have some technical drawings of a device, sufficiently detailled to allow replication and then, and only then, can we be certain it is not smoke and mirrors.

Hans von Lieven giggles and shakes his head.

Exit stage left :-)
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

ltseung888

Quote from: hansvonlieven on August 29, 2007, 08:23:11 PM
G'day all,

Even if there was a convincing video, what would that prove? That Godzilla is real?

Let us have some technical drawings of a device, sufficiently detailled to allow replication and then, and only then, can we be certain it is not smoke and mirrors.

Hans von Lieven giggles and shakes his head.

Exit stage left :-)

As Jeffc and Forever suggested, the best strategy is to have actual products on the Market.  When the skeptic buys and uses the Cosmic Energy Electricity Generator and pays no electricity bills, the dust will settle down.  That is being done by "huge resource" Companies.

My purpose in posting is not to try to convince the skeptics or the debunkers.  It was pointed out to me multiple times - that would be close to impossible without actual products.

The Wang device with theory and all components exposed would not do the job.  Why waste more time?

My purpose in posting is:

(1) Convince the Chinese Government to take a look at the working prototypes. (We succeeded in the case of Wang.)

(2) Promote the Lee-Tseung theory to the Over Unity Developers.  They do not need to worry about the COE Roadblock anymore.

(3) Have material ready for the International Reporters when ANY of the Over Unity Inventions is confirmed outside China. 

(4) We are in touch with inventors such as Joseph Newman, Milkovic, Liang, Chao etc.  Their success is our success and vice versa.  We are working on the win-win scenario.

(5) We want to benefit the World.  We want to give direction and hope to the younger generation, especially the African Nations suffering from the effect of AIDS.

(6) We do not just talk technical.  We also advocate the New Order.  Please see:
http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?t=13

Lawrence Tseung
Posting Leads Out direction and hope to the younger generation
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

shruggedatlas

Quote from: ltseung888 on August 29, 2007, 09:06:17 PM

(2) Promote the Lee-Tseung theory to the Over Unity Developers.  They do not need to worry about the COE Roadblock anymore.


This is a noble goal and probably the only one you could possibly accomplish by posting here, but as the poster above just pointed out, without detailed specifications, it is impossible to try the theory out, so your efforts at promotion are hitting a roadblock.

Moreover, I have a fundamental problem with your statement that there is no need to worry about violating the COE principle.  In the boat in calm water scenario, you analogize solar energy with gravitational energy, and thereby make the logical leap that if using solar energy does not violate the law of COE, then neither does using gravitational energy.

However, you ignore the key difference that Solar energy is not infinite, while gravity is.  As we all know, the sun gives off energy in the form of radiation, and this energy can be captured and used by us, and the reason the law of COE is not violated is that the sun's energy is slowly being depleted.  Are you therefore suggesting that by emitting gravity, the earth's matter is somehow being depleted?  And if so, isn't it inherently dangerous to use gravity as a power source?  What happens when we run out of gravity?

Luckily, based on everything we know about gravity, every piece of mass inherently projects a gravitational pull, just by the fact that it is mass.  And by projecting gravity, it is in no way losing its mass as result.  So being able to tap this infinite source of "energy" to actually produce excess power would violate the law of COE, and therefore the underlying principle of your theory is flawed.

ltseung888

Quote from: shruggedatlas on August 29, 2007, 09:29:05 PM
Quote from: ltseung888 on August 29, 2007, 09:06:17 PM

(2) Promote the Lee-Tseung theory to the Over Unity Developers.  They do not need to worry about the COE Roadblock anymore.


This is a noble goal and probably the only one you could possibly accomplish by posting here, but as the poster above just pointed out, without detailed specifications, it is impossible to try the theory out, so your efforts at promotion are hitting a roadblock.

Moreover, I have a fundamental problem with your statement that there is no need to worry about violating the COE principle.  In the boat in calm water scenario, you analogize solar energy with gravitational energy, and thereby make the logical leap that if using solar energy does not violate the law of COE, then neither does using gravitational energy.

However, you ignore the key difference that Solar energy is not infinite, while gravity is.  As we all know, the sun gives off energy in the form of radiation, and this energy can be captured and used by us, and the reason the law of COE is not violated is that the sun's energy is slowly being depleted.  Are you therefore suggesting that by emitting gravity, the earth's matter is somehow being depleted?  And if so, isn't it inherently dangerous to use gravity as a power source?  What happens when we run out of gravity?

Luckily, based on everything we know about gravity, every piece of mass inherently projects a gravitational pull, just by the fact that it is mass.  And by projecting gravity, it is in no way losing its mass as result.  So being able to tap this infinite source of "energy" to actually produce excess power would violate the law of COE, and therefore the underlying principle of your theory is flawed.

Great, this gives a chance for me to reproduce one of the discussions with a Member of the Chinese Academy of Science.

Member A: "Will the gravitational energy or the electron motion energy be exhausted if we keep using them?"

Lee: "Gravitational Attraction exists whenever there is mass.  We are being pulled in multiple directions by various masses.  These masses include the Earth, the Moon, the Sun, the Stars and even you and I.  If you move, the force of attraction between you and I actually does work.  Work = Force x Displacement.  Work requires Energy. In other words, we are exchanging gravitational energy constantly with our surroundings."

Member A: "I accept that we are immersed in gravitational fields.  I also accept that we are having constant exchange of gravitational energy due to movement of near and distant masses.  These are Newtonian Physics accepted by almost all Physicists.  However, my question is whether such gravitational energy is theoretically infinite?  Will heavy and constant use of such energy exhaust this energy source?"

Tseung: "This leads to the bigger picture of the entire Universe.  We know that there are Black Holes that attract masses and light.  We know that there is the Big Bang theory that explains the expanding universe.  We also believe that some scientists already proposed a non-steady state Universe.  There are multiple Black Holes and multiple Bangs.  Mass and Energy are constantly being interchanged.  If the entire Universe is dynamic, I do not see an exhaustion of gravitational energy."

Member A: "How about electron motion energy?  You included magnetic, electric, electromagnetic energies as electron motion energies.  Gravitational Energy is attraction only.  Electron Motion Energy can be repulsion."

Tseung: "Unless electrons stop spinning and fall into the nucleus, there will be electron motion energy.  I do not think that you will deny that we are also immersed in magnetic, electrostatic, electromagnetic fields.  Sunlight is only one form of electromagnetic waves.  We have constant interchange with Sunlight and such electron motion energy."

Member A: "I have to admit that you do have logic.  I have seen the working prototypes of Liang and Wang.  I and my colleagues could not come up with a good theory.  Let me think more about it."

*** Many Forum members, including Stefan Hartmann, already observed over unity effects (e.g. his Newman Motor prototype produced 135% Output  from 100% input.) outside China.  My posts will give them encouragement.  I shall refine my TPU article shortly.  The TPU does not violate COE. ***

*** If you do not believe the Lee-Tseung Theory, you better come up with an alternative when any of the Over Unity Inventions are confirmed outside China.  There are multiple confirmations within China and the inventors with prototypes already got support.***

Lawrence Tseung
Working Prototypes Lead Out the need to re-examine established theory.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

I found the FAQ on Black Holes by Ted Bunn most educational.

http://cosmology.berkeley.edu/Education/BHfaq.html#q1

Regards,

Lawrence Tseung
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.