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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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utilitarian

Quote from: ltseung888 on July 17, 2008, 02:06:06 AM
Dear utilitarian,

Let us focus on the gravitational pull again.  You and I are actualling pulling each other right now.  We both have mass.  There is a finite distance between the two of us.  When you or I move, there will be changes in our distance.  Work is done or there is energy exchange.

Note that I used the words - any point in the universe.  The gravitational pull on any point in the universe will change according to the motion of the various heavenly bodies. 

In the case of extracting energy from electron motion, our focus will turn from heavenly bodies to the trillions of electrons surrounding us.

The lead-out-energy theory cannot be wrong.  Please look at http;//www.dsk.cn on the rotating Wang device carefully.  Check out the Bedini motor again.  They already use such lead-out-energy.

None of what you said is relevant at all.  Sure, the closer one object is to another object, the greater mutual pull they experience, but so what?  Their own gravitational pull is not changing.

You are dodging the issue.  The issue is - does swinging a pendulum on Earth deplete the gravitational energy pool of the Earth?  To put it another way, what if there were trillions and trillions of pendulums set up on the Earth's surface, constantly being swung, would the Earth eventually run out of gravitational energy?  Forget the other planets, the Moon, and Sun.  Focus on the Earth, since that is what is causing the pendulums to swing.  If your answer is no, the Earth will never run out of gravitational energy, then your theory violates the principle of CoE.  If your answer is yes, well that is pretty silly.

Devil

utilitarian, let me answer this one.

You asked: "The issue is - does swinging a pendulum on Earth deplete the gravitational energy pool of the Earth?"

You made an assumption - there is a gravitational energy pool of the Earth.

The clever answer is - there is NO gravitational energy pool of the Earth.  Gravitational energy comes from the attraction of masses upon each other.  The largest mass on Earth is Earth itself.  So long as there is no change in the mass of the Earth, the attraction force will be approximately the same.  However, the presence and movement of other heavenly bodies such as the moon will affect the net attractive force by the Earth on an object on its surface.  (Our weight actually varies with the position of the moon!)

When we focus on the much bigger universe scale, there is the big bang theory - heavily bodies will move further away from each other.  The gravitational force they exert on each other will decrease with time.

There is the black hole theory - mass and energy will be sucked in.  The physics of the black hole is different from the Newtonian effect we observe on Earth.

Stupid Humans.  Focus on Force, Displacement and Work.  Energy is interchangeable.  Energy is a dynamic quantity.  There is no such thing as a pool of energy.
Do not worry about the insults and jeers.  Let them recite the following 666 times.

(1) The Lead-out-energy from a horizontally pulled pendulum is equal to the vertical component of the tension times the vertical displacement.
(2) An unbalanced force can be generated from a closed system.  Secondary events using unequal exchanges of energy and momentum are used.
(3) The electromagnetic Coil can be a magnet, a collision mechanism and an electricity exchange mechanism.

utilitarian

Quote from: Devil on July 17, 2008, 08:26:39 PM
utilitarian, let me answer this one.

You asked: "The issue is - does swinging a pendulum on Earth deplete the gravitational energy pool of the Earth?"

You made an assumption - there is a gravitational energy pool of the Earth.

The clever answer is - there is NO gravitational energy pool of the Earth.  Gravitational energy comes from the attraction of masses upon each other.  The largest mass on Earth is Earth itself.  So long as there is no change in the mass of the Earth, the attraction force will be approximately the same.  However, the presence and movement of other heavenly bodies such as the moon will affect the net attractive force by the Earth on an object on its surface.  (Our weight actually varies with the position of the moon!)

When we focus on the much bigger universe scale, there is the big bang theory - heavily bodies will move further away from each other.  The gravitational force they exert on each other will decrease with time.

There is the black hole theory - mass and energy will be sucked in.  The physics of the black hole is different from the Newtonian effect we observe on Earth.

Stupid Humans.  Focus on Force, Displacement and Work.  Energy is interchangeable.  Energy is a dynamic quantity.  There is no such thing as a pool of energy.

You are still dodging the question.  And you are also tragically wrong.  An object exerts gravity, even when there is not another object around.  It exerts gravity on itself, because something like the earth is not one solid thing - but a mass of molecules.  This mass of molecules keeps the outer molecules from flying off into space.

But even under your slanted view, the earth and the pendulum bob are exerting gravitational forces on each other.  The pendulum bob is given swings by a person, and gravitational energy is being injected per your theory.  Does the gravitational force between the earth and the pendulum bob (due to the repeated swinging) weaken over time or not?  If not, then you have violated the principle of CoE.

Please clear this up, because it seems your theory hinges upon a clear answer, which you have not provided.

Devil

Quote from: utilitarian on July 17, 2008, 09:28:22 PM
The pendulum bob is given swings by a person, and gravitational energy is being injected per your theory.  Does the gravitational force between the earth and the pendulum bob (due to the repeated swinging) weaken over time or not?  If not, then you have violated the principle of CoE.

Please clear this up, because it seems your theory hinges upon a clear answer, which you have not provided.

The clear answer is:
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When a sideward pull is applied to a simple pendulum, the lead out gravitational energy is equal to:

The vertical component of the tension of the string times the vertical component of the displacement.

So long as there is tension on the string, gravitational energy will be lead out.

The pendulum bob is given swings by a person, and gravitational energy is being injected (Lead Out) per your theory. 

***Note that the swings or Lee-Tseung Pulls must be applied at the right time to keep leading out gravitational energy - detected as larger angle of swing.

Does the gravitational force between the earth and the pendulum bob (due to the repeated swinging) weaken over time or not?  If not, then you have violated the principle of CoE. 

***During the swing when there is no Lee-Tseung Pull, there will be loss or change of energy due to friction and air resistance.  (Or electrical energy extracted via wire cutting magnetic field.)  The magnitude of the swinging will become less.  However, the repeated Lee-Tseung Pulls will
(1) Inject energy and
(2) Lead out gravitational energy
to increase the swing again.

There is absolutely no violation of CoE.
Do not worry about the insults and jeers.  Let them recite the following 666 times.

(1) The Lead-out-energy from a horizontally pulled pendulum is equal to the vertical component of the tension times the vertical displacement.
(2) An unbalanced force can be generated from a closed system.  Secondary events using unequal exchanges of energy and momentum are used.
(3) The electromagnetic Coil can be a magnet, a collision mechanism and an electricity exchange mechanism.

utilitarian

Quote from: Devil on July 18, 2008, 03:07:55 AM

***During the swing when there is no Lee-Tseung Pull, there will be loss or change of energy due to friction and air resistance.  (Or electrical energy extracted via wire cutting magnetic field.)  The magnitude of the swinging will become less.  However, the repeated Lee-Tseung Pulls will
(1) Inject energy and
(2) Lead out gravitational energy
to increase the swing again.

There is absolutely no violation of CoE.

You did not answer the question.  As a result of the Lead Out gravitational energy entering the pendulum system, the ball is moving faster, there is more friction, heat etc  In fact, based on your theory, given the proper setup, this energy can be harnessed to do other useful work, as per some kind of gravity motor.

Say there are gravity motors all over the world creating free electrical energy, which is used to light up city streets and is ultimately escaping to outer space as light.  Over time, will this weaken the gravitational forces between the Earth and the various moving parts of the motors?  This is a very simple question.  Yes or no?

If the answer is no, then you have violated CoE, since you are creating energy out of nothing.

If yes, well, that is quite a thing to claim.