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Overunity Machines Forum



The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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hansvonlieven

G'day Lawrence,

I don't think your device will work as planned, but I respect your determination to try your idea.

What puzzles me is why you are so intent on using a permanent magnet and an electromagnet. Wouldn't you be better off to use two electromagnets instead? You could fire them with the same pulse and have much more control over the whole contraption. Far more energy efficient too.

Take a moment to think about it.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

ltseung888

Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 19, 2009, 02:08:15 AM
G'day Lawrence,

I don't think your device will work as planned, but I respect your determination to try your idea.

What puzzles me is why you are so intent on using a permanent magnet and an electromagnet. Wouldn't you be better off to use two electromagnets instead? You could fire them with the same pulse and have much more control over the whole contraption. Far more energy efficient too.

Take a moment to think about it.

Hans von Lieven

It is a step-by-step development process.  Once a particular configuration works, we consolidate it before the next step.

Some researchers are already working on different and theoretically better designs.

The USA and Chinese Military top-secret projects have far more advanced designs.  The rumored Alients may be millions of years ahead of us.

What I published here is guaranteed to work.  Every experiment will be at least triple checked.  We do not want the likes of MIT, Stanford, Cambridge Universities etc. to dispute our results.  Everything is replicateable.

Thank you for your constructive suggestion.  We may try it in one of the future steps.  There is no need to hurry.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

Top Gun

Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 19, 2009, 02:08:15 AM
G'day Lawrence,

I don't think your device will work as planned, but I respect your determination to try your idea.

What puzzles me is why you are so intent on using a permanent magnet and an electromagnet. Wouldn't you be better off to use two electromagnets instead? You could fire them with the same pulse and have much more control over the whole contraption. Far more energy efficient too.

Take a moment to think about it.

Hans von Lieven

I think that we should give credit where it is due.  Hans is right in comparing the repulsion between
(1)   One electromagnet and one permanent magnet
(2)   Two electromagnets

One of the biggest problems with the electromagnet is the use of the soft iron core.  Without the soft iron core, the magnetic effect will be a tiny fraction.  However, the soft iron core will have induced magnetism by the permanent magnet before any current is passed to the electromagnet.  That created much problem.  One solution is to take away the soft iron core.  The interaction will be between the permanent magnet and the weak electromagnetic coil.

With two electromagnets with the proper current timing, there will be no attraction to begin with.  The strong magnetic effect can be demonstrated.  The trick is to provide the proper current timing.  This is definitely a worthwhile approach and must not be overlooked in the step-by-step experiments.

Hans, you get excellent credit points  this time.  If you build the same platform, you will discover many surprises and earn even more credit points.  The fun and excitement will be higher than watching TV or waiting for the Tseung part-time teams to come up with their results.

ltseung888

In the collision type jump, the mass of the moving magnet or electromagnet should be as large as possible.

For example, the mass of the moving magnet is M1
The mass of the tube + coil is M2
The velocity of M1 at collision is V1
The velocity of M1+M2 just after collision is V2

At collision, assume that the momentum is conserved,

M1 * V1 = (M1+M2) * V2
         V2 = (M1/(M1+M2)) * V1

For the highest V2, M2 should be as small as possible.

Thus to achieve the maximum jumping effect, we need to consider the various factors: repulsion force and relative masses.

One additional technique is to have the top coil producing attraction to help the upward jump.  All these theoretical predictions will be check by actual experiments.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

TinselKoala

"For example, the mass of the moving magnet is M1
The mass of the tube + coil is M2
The velocity of M1 at collision is V1
The velocity of M1+M2 just after collision is V2

At collision, assume that the momentum is conserved,

M1 * V1 = (M1+M2) * V2
         V2 = (M1/(M1+M2)) * V1"

Yes. Now please compute what happens, and what is moving where, WHEN THE IMPULSE IS APPLIED, that is, well before the eventual collision occurs.

You will see that by the time your "at collision" process occurs, the M2 mass will actually be moving BACKWARDS, and the smaller it is the faster backwards it will move.

Jumping has already been invented. Your device, and experiments with it, will only be interesting if it
HOVERS ON ITS OWN WITHOUT PUSHING OFF FROM A SUBSTRATE, and this it will never do.

You really should quit wasting everybody's time, because you are just providing more and more PROOF of the fact that YOU, ltseung, TopGun, Devil, are the true purveyor of disinformation and lies, to prevent real researchers from following paths that might be truly productive.