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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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ltseung888

Quote from: Cloxxki on July 12, 2009, 07:37:09 AM
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But let them be generally respected open source scientists from this forum or peer forums. Allow them to make modifications to the prototype, complete a loop, etc.

My personal belief is that the top USA, Chinese and other Government Scientists are well ahead of us in this Lead-Out Energy and flying saucer research.  Anything published from us or made from our monthly budget of less than USD1, 000 are “elementary”.

However, other team members see immense financial potential in their work.  They seek reward for their time, brains, sweat and blood.  The project was not a piece of cake.  The device required much innovation.  Most scientists with similar support or resources would have given up long ago.

Some members took the attitude that if the Governments treat the technology as top-secret, their top scientists and vast research resources would not be able to compete with us.  The competition is from ourselves and other inventors who published their work on the Internet.  If we go by the information published, we are ahead both theoretically and experimentally.

Some critics even mentioned that Doomsday was predicted as 2012 â€" only 3 years away.  They said that our lead-out energy and flying saucer technology were responsible for the catastrophe.  We better change the attitudes of our leaders to prevent that from happening.  The technology cannot be stopped now.  Duplication or reverse engineering of the working prototype is within the reach of all Nations.

Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

The Magniwork Diagram

Someone sent me the attached diagram and said that our Tong Po Chi Prototype was nothing more than the Magniwork or Bedini Device.

The biggest difference is the Pulsing Circuit.  The Magniwork or Bedini device used fixed frequency pulsing.  The leading out of magnetic (electron motion) energy would be at this single fixed frequency only.  This single fixed frequency could be used to recharge the battery.  However, when the device was driven at any other frequency as in the normal motor or electricity generator, this single fixed frequency would not lead out magnetic energy.  The analogy is pushing the swing at the wrong frequency.  Instead of swinging higher, the swing would stop sooner and much energy would be wasted.

The Tong Po Chi device uses the proximity switch to sense the position of a passing magnet and provide the pulse to repel other magnet(s) on the wheel to rotate it.  The frequency of the pulse would increase with the rotational speed of the wheel.  More magnetic energy would be lead out. Theoretically, the rotational speed would reach infinity.  Practically, the rotational speed would reach a maximum when the torque provided by the pulses balanced the frictional force at the axle.  (Or when the rotational speed was so fast that it “confused” the proximity switch.)  With different loads, the rotational speed would be different.

The present prototypes indicated that loop back is possible - in other words, we could use the output energy to recharge the battery and perform useful work at the same time.  Thanks to the Lead-Out energy.

So please do not confuse our devices with the marginal Newman, Bedini or Adams motors.

Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

Pirate88179

Lawrence:

All of my Bedini type motors increase the frequency with the rpm's....automatically and up to well over 15,000 rpms!!!  The standard Bedini circuit will do this.  It is the trigger coil that is energized by the approaching magnet and fires a pulse to turn on the transistor that fires the regular coil, and so on.  I can post you a good diagram of how this works done by Introvertabrate.  There are folks on here and on youtube that have seen Bedini rotational speeds of over 300,000 rpm's using the standard circuit and no proximity sensors or switches or reed switches.  Check out Jonnydavro's work here and his youtube videos...I have replicated some of his early work but he is way ahead of folks on this type of device.

Here are two of my Bedini motors running pretty fast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfprTzG5SY4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RsFMyZbj1I


Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

TinselKoala

Quote from: Pirate88179 on July 13, 2009, 09:48:39 PM
Lawrence:

All of my Bedini type motors increase the frequency with the rpm's....automatically and up to well over 15,000 rpms!!!  The standard Bedini circuit will do this.  It is the trigger coil that is energized by the approaching magnet and fires a pulse to turn on the transistor that fires the regular coil, and so on.  I can post you a good diagram of how this works done by Introvertabrate.  There are folks on here and on youtube that have seen Bedini rotational speeds of over 300,000 rpm's using the standard circuit and no proximity sensors or switches or reed switches.  Check out Jonnydavro's work here and his youtube videos...I have replicated some of his early work but he is way ahead of folks on this type of device.

Here are two of my Bedini motors running pretty fast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfprTzG5SY4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RsFMyZbj1I


Bill

Yep, every bedini circuit I ever saw used some pulse clock that was triggered by the wheel's rotation somehow, either by the magnet passing the coil, or a Hall sensor, or optical commutation like some of Minato's designs, there are a myriad of ways to do it. Joe Newman swears by mechanical sparky commutators. You sure wouldn't get far fast with fixed pulse rate. And the motor would drop out whenever you loaded it up.

But 300,000 rpm? er, that's pretty ffffffast. When I was building model airplanes I liked to use the tiny Cox .010 and .020 CID engines. What jewels those are! Millimicron tolerances all the way throughout. They would turn a 3 1/2 inch  diameter propeller 28,000 - 29,000 rpm, and I calculated that at that speed the blade tips were just about supersonic.  A larger rotor, would of course be moving even faster. So a small machine going 300,000 would have parts moving at Mach 10.

Which is why I'm wondering what I'm wondering...maybe I've dropped a decimal somewhere. Or maybe someone else has. Bill??

Please don't try spinning that one with the magnets on the outside of the wheel that fast. Or, if you do, be sure to take a video, and stand well back.

Those motors are really really cooking indeed! Well done. But golly what if one comes apart?

ltseung888

Quote from: Pirate88179 on July 13, 2009, 09:48:39 PM
Lawrence:

All of my Bedini type motors increase the frequency with the rpm's....automatically and up to well over 15,000 rpms!!!  The standard Bedini circuit will do this.  It is the trigger coil that is energized by the approaching magnet and fires a pulse to turn on the transistor that fires the regular coil, and so on.  I can post you a good diagram of how this works done by Introvertabrate.  There are folks on here and on youtube that have seen Bedini rotational speeds of over 300,000 rpm's using the standard circuit and no proximity sensors or switches or reed switches.  Check out Jonnydavro's work here and his youtube videos...I have replicated some of his early work but he is way ahead of folks on this type of device.

Here are two of my Bedini motors running pretty fast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfprTzG5SY4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RsFMyZbj1I


Bill

How strong a Pulse will the transistor circuit generate?

Our relay switch can pulse rotate the stationary wheel 1/4 a turn with the prototype in my living room.  The torque from the new prototype is even more powerful.

We believe that we can drain some energy from the rotating axle without significantly slowing it down.  (This is obviously one of the focus of the on-going experiments.)

What would happen to your Bedini Motor if you drain some energy from the rotating axle?  If a single pulse could not provide the force to rotate the wheel to the next pulsing position, the device will have to rely on the stored momentum.
This means that on any sustained drain, the device will keep losing momentum.  The source of supply could not possibly keep up.  Try to rebuild your Bedini Prototype with the new understanding. 

Thanks for providing the useful information.


The Pulsing circuit we used have the following characteristics:
500 turns of 0.51mm wire with resistance of 6 ohms.
12V battery - thus providing 2 Amps per pulse.
Circular magnets of diameter 25mm and length 35mm at USD5.00 each.  These magnets were purchased from the speciality stores in China.

When we used the Dr. Ting test (repel it upwards with the coil), the resulting height was more than 1 meter. 

Try it.  I am absolutely sure that your new Bedini Motor will give you much better results.  Thank you to the relatively large Lead-Out Energy per pulse.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.