The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[Paul-R]

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At present we offer a Course with a working unit to take away for those who want to replicate the machine.  The price is HK$150K and up to 15 participants.  There is much tuning at this stage.  Written instruction alone is worthless.   Many parts must be precision made and will be beyond the capabilities of the average home engineer. 

Don't underestimate the ingenuity of some of the people on this site. Complex engineering can often be achieved by taking a product mass produced for another purpose and chopping it about. Look at what the rotoverter people are talking about with their weird adaptations of three phase motors.

Let us know, and maybe the community will get to solutions.

[ltseung888]

Don't underestimate the ingenuity of some of the people on this site. Complex engineering can often be achieved by taking a product mass produced for another purpose and chopping it about. Look at what the rotoverter people are talking about with their weird adaptations of three phase motors.

Let us know, and maybe the community will get to solutions.

Dear Paul-R,

Let me quote one example of tuning of the sensor.  We used the proximity switch.  There is supposed to be a theoretically best position when the current is turned on only after the magnet has passed the mid-point of the coil. 

The technical difficult is to have the 16 magnets and 15 coils all reaching the same best position at the same time.

I first used students in their summer vacation time to try to achieve this engineering task.  They could not wind the coils correctly with the hand-winding machine.  The winding was not professionally done - the windings were not tight and were not wound with each turn next to each other.  I specified 6 ohms which translated to 700 turns.  The result was anywhere from 4 ohms to 12 ohms.

When we test the specially built magnets, they all vary in magnetic strength.  When we put one on, the result was not up to standard but when we replaced it with a supposed identical one, the result was up to standard again.

It was a painful process to get the 60 cm wheel working.  Tong finally threw away the student wound coils.  The obviously wrong conclusion from the students was - the lead-out theory does not work and it was a waste of time.

I am now tuning the infrared sensor.  Knneth Chong did the circuit and board for us.  He spent 8 hours and the result was worse than the proximity switch.  He tried to put the infrared sensors on the same wooden board as the proximity switch.  The proximity switch can vary in position by 1-2 cm for tuning.  The infrared sensors can vary in position by 1-2 mm!  I spent a couple of days and finally gave up.  Mr. Tong will redesign and rebuilt that infrared sensing mechanism.  The electronic part is fine but the tuning mechanism must be redone. 

I have zero confidence that the average forum member here can perform such engineering tasks.  They tried to replicate the Forever Yuen magnetic pendulum experiment and reported that the swinging time was not affected!!!   

One simple test is the wheel with two tubes containing iron ball experiment.  Our results on youtube showed 2.5 minutes with two hard surfaces and 5 minutes with one hard and one soft surface.  It would be interesting to see if any forum member here can achieve something similar.  The wheel can be 60 cm in diameter.  (This is not a waste of time as the 60 cm wheel must be tested for balanceing before assembly.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1P3TGhJiF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zykButGc22U


Paul-R, can you do such an experiment and report the results?  You can invite other forum members to help.

[Paul-R]

The technical difficult is to have the 16 magnets and 15 coils all reaching the same best position at the same time.

I have zero confidence that the average forum member here can perform such engineering tasks.

"...reaching the same best position at the same time..."

Exactness is not achievable in engineering. You need to give a +/- tolerance.

There are some very astute people on this board. Unfortunately, the minatowheel YahooGroup might have been better, but has largely become defunct as a result of this site.

[ltseung888]

"...reaching the same best position at the same time..."

Exactness is not achievable in engineering. You need to give a +/- tolerance.

There are some very astute people on this board. Unfortunately, the minatowheel YahooGroup might have been better, but has largely become defunct as a result of this site.

We can specify that the positions must be within 1 mm.  The Coils must be 700 turns plus or minus 1.  The magnets must be 4000 units plus or minus 40 units etc.  The truth is that when we built the wheel, we connected one coil at a time.  We tested that addition and sometimes replaced it with a supposed identical coil. 

Try the gravity wheel with the two tubes as in the previous post.  See if any forum member can achieve similar results.  If you do it, you will understand the painful tuning process experienced by the OU device inventors.

Our belief is that we need to supply the average organization with a factory built and tested unit that can demonstrate OU conclusively.  The average organization can then disassemble and reassemble it.  (The plan is to order the different parts from different specialized factories and have a final assembly and quality control plant.  But that will be done by someone much more qualified than me.)

[ltseung888]

11. What improvements do you expect to make to the Technology?

The Tong Wheel was tuned just enough to demonstrate overunity with the meters.  The number of Collector Coils were increased from 1 upwards.  The Output Collector Voltage steadily increased.  When 4 coils were used, the meters showed overunity with COP just above 1.  When 5 Collectors were used, COP reached 3.  We stopped tuning and prepared for the Open Shows.

Improvement 1

One obvious improvement is to increase the number of Collectors and decrease the number of Drive Coils.  This is a simple task that can be done as soon as we get the Tong Wheel back from the Radio Station.

Improvement 2

Use of soft Iron in the Collector Coils.  In the Tong wheel, we used only air coils.  Air Coils was chosen because we did the repulsion experiment first.  A magnet was repelled from the tube with a DC current sent to a coil on the outside of the tube.  The magnet could be ejected to a height of 1 meter.  That convinced us that we may be able to achieve overunity with air coils.  The Tong Wheel proved that we were right.  Now, we want to get higher Output Power.  We know that soft iron in the core of the coil will increase its magnetism. (permeability) 

With our Tong wheel, if we put soft iron in the core of the collector coil at the start, there will be so much attraction that the wheel would not rotate at all.  But if the wheel is already rotating, the Collector Coils generate AC current.  The polarity keeps changing (from N to S to N etc.)  If we insert the soft iron into the core after the wheel  has rotated, there will be no slowing down due to attraction.

A single Collector Coil with soft iron inserted into the core AFTER the wheel has rotated could pick up more voltage and current than 5 air Collector Coils.  This mechanism is being designed and will be added as soon as we get the Tong Wheel back from the Radio Station.

Improvement 3

Use of Infrared sensor instead of the Proximity Switch.  The Proximity Switch is not the best sensor.  It fails to work at high rotational speeds.  It works to our advantage in the Tong Wheel because it allows time for the Lead-Out Energy to take effect.  (The Bedini wheels failed to show overunity because they rotated too fast!)  To get higher efficiency, we want a narrower pulse and a controllable rotational speed.

The infrared sensor designed by Kenneth Chong has one sensor to start the pulse and another sensor to stop the pulse.  There is a speed limit switch.  If the rotational speed exceeds this set speed, the starting pulse will not be turned on.

The mechanical set up was compromised because Kenneth wanted to use the wooden board for both the proximity switch and the infrared sensors.  The tuning was extremely difficult.  Mr. Tong will redesign the mechanical tuning mechanism and keep the electronics part.

We expect this to have a major impact and that we can use data from this to determine the best rotational speed relative to the external load.

(to be continued)