The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[ltseung888]

Building the Core Team to understand and/or replicate the Liang Engine

Brainstorm result between Forever Yuen and Lawrence Tseung:

(1)   Need Intelligent Chip and Integrated Circuit experts to select and program. They will be the technical brain at this stage.  Without these experts, the project cannot be started.
(2)   Need patent experts (preferably patent attorneys) to correctly interpret the China Patent information.  Apparently, Dr. Liang did not apply for Patents outside China.  We need to understand the legal and moral implications.
(3)   Need good Public Relationship (PR) persons to feed information to this Forum and others on the Internet.  We expect insults, insults and insults.  Some insults may come from professional debunkers.  (Tseung plans to use this forum and http://forum.go-here.nl where he has moderator privileges.)
(4)   The initial funding is likely to come from the pockets of the Volunteers and/or strong supporters.  We do not want to be accused as fraud at this stage.  We need to select a good location for the brains mentioned in (1).
(5)   Need manufacturing facilities to produce the Cylinders and Axle.  One is the Rotating Cylinder with one set of ICs and connected to the Axle.  The other is the non-rotating Cylinder to contain the other set of ICs.  The closer the cylinders, the stronger will be the magnetic forces.
(6)   Need starting motor to get the inner Cylinder to the designed speed.
(7)   Need test equipment to check input power, output power and/or torque.
(   Need sensing equipment to determine external load and adjust the Input Power (e.g. vary number of ICs involved in pulse rotation) accordingly.
(9)   May have a battery always connected and recharged by output similar to the battery in a car.  The battery will drive the ICs.  (or the battery can be removed to convince the skeptics after starting.)
(10)   May have a constantly running engine to provide electricity. This is effectively a Cosmic Energy Powered Electricity Generator.  Once started, the starting motor can be removed forever.  A few light bulbs may be lighted up to continuously draw some energy to avoid zero external load.
(11)   Need a way to tilt the axle to demonstrate the reduced output power when axle vertical.  This is a very convincing argument that Gravitational Energy is Lead Out.
(12)   The more we talk, the more it appears a University Environment is best.  Or we should get someone with University Connections in the Forum to help.  More than one team is acceptable.

We should ask for Qualified Volunteers from the Forum and ensure that we have the Team to lead the project before starting.  A few qualified experts can guide us better than hundreds of posts from unknown sources. (Most casual participants are likely to wait for the Liang or Chao Car/Generator to hit the Market.)

Please indicate your interest on this thread.  Or if you prefer, email forevermango_118@hotmail.com with your area of expertise and/or qualifications if you wish to participate.

[gyulasun]

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The real problem for us is that the Chinese patent system is very
difficult to deal with. The patent number you quoted was not recognised.
I am sure it exists; I cannot find anything from that web site.

If you want to help us replicate, then we need the claims in English,
along with the rest of the document and the drawings. That would
be very helpful.
Paul.

Hi Paul,

While I do agree with you wrt what you wrote above, those Chinese patents that are AVAILABLE via the internet at EPO do NOT always include drawings or in other cases claims or even descriptions.  Let me show you an example of that of Lawrence: he wrote the Number as 01123526.6 in his last but one mail, where he also gave the link to the Chinese Patent database and wrote the inventor was Liang Sing Yan.

First, here is a link that takes you to the English language user intro page of the same Chinese Patent database Lawrence gave: http://www.sipo.gov.cn/sipo_English/
(You can also reach this if you use the link by Lawrence and click on 'English' icon at the upper right side corner.)
Second, copy and paste the Number 01123526.6  BUT OMIT decimal .6  so that you search for 01123526 only! ALSO, choose Application Number from the choices under it.
Third, by entering these two and click Go, you receive a new page with 1 result:
ID  App. No.   Title
1  01123526   Cosmic gravity energy acceleration motor vehicle 

and you can click on the title to see some data and the patent Abstract in English:

Title: Cosmic gravity energy acceleration motor vehicle
Application Number:  01123526  Application Date:  2001.07.30
Publication Number:  1400384  Publication Date:  2003.03.05
Approval Pub. Date:    Granted Pub. Date:   
International Classifi-cation:   F03G7/00
Applicant(s) Name:  Liang Xingren
Address:  450052
Inventor(s) Name:   
Attorney & Agent:   
Abstract
     In a stainless steel cylinder the intelligent chip and intelligent integrated circuit chip and respectively mounted on its two sides, the centre of the stainless steel cylinder is equipped with a shaft connected with external load, said stainless steel cylinder is connected with external load by means of wire, so that said load which does not use any fuel and can start said cosmic gravitational force energy perpetual motion machine can be rotated. Said invention is applicable to various vehicles, and its volume is small, weight is light and it has no pollution.

Now the important thing is you can see the Publication Number:1400384 and if you place CN as a start: CN1400384 you have got the patent number known by EPO! And if you search this CN1400384 at EPO patent number search you will find it but no any description, claims or drawings except the the same Abstract text, that is all!

Notice that the Applicant Name is Liang Xingren AS known by EPO!  Lawrence knows this as Liang Sing Yan. (Maybe Xing= Sing?)
If you search for the name Liang Xingren at EPO you end up with some 14 very interesting patent titles but no any drawings, in some cases even no description in Chinese either!
For instance I would rather read his thoughts and solutions on this patent: Gravitational energy generator  (Application Number: 200510132560   Publication Number:1841912 i.e. CN1841912)   
It is possible the Chinese Patent Office did not issue the full patent outside of China??

Regards
Gyula

[Humbugger]

" In a stainless steel cylinder the intelligent chip and intelligent integrated circuit chip and respectively mounted on its two sides, the centre of the stainless steel cylinder is equipped with a shaft connected with external load, said stainless steel cylinder is connected with external load by means of wire, so that said load which does not use any fuel and can start said cosmic gravitational force energy perpetual motion machine can be rotated. Said invention is applicable to various vehicles, and its volume is small, weight is light and it has no pollution. "

This is the very kind of total nonsense that seems to appear at the end of every referenced wild-goose-chase Mr. Tseung leads us out into.  Has the world gone berserk?  Is there no bastion of sanity left?  Does the above statement describe anything to anyone in any useful way?  Does it promote understanding of a new technology?  Am I missing something?  Everything Mr. Tseung leads out seems to be totally unsubstantiated tripe, backed up only by his incredible statements.

[ltseung888]

Title: Cosmic gravity energy acceleration motor vehicle
Application Number:  01123526  Application Date:  2001.07.30
Publication Number:  1400384  Publication Date:  2003.03.05
Approval Pub. Date:    Granted Pub. Date:   
International Classifi-cation:   F03G7/00
Applicant(s) Name:  Liang Xingren
Address:  450052
Inventor(s) Name:   
Attorney & Agent:   
Abstract
     In a stainless steel cylinder the intelligent chip and intelligent integrated circuit chip and respectively mounted on its two sides, the centre of the stainless steel cylinder is equipped with a shaft connected with external load, said stainless steel cylinder is connected with external load by means of wire, so that said load which does not use any fuel and can start said cosmic gravitational force energy perpetual motion machine can be rotated. Said invention is applicable to various vehicles, and its volume is small, weight is light and it has no pollution.

Regards
Gyula

Thank you, Gyula.  Looks like I do not have to do the translation myself.  Let the experts do their job.

[Paul-R]

It is possible the Chinese Patent Office did not issue the full patent outside of China??
Regards
Gyula

Yes. But seems to have a "mention" on the EPO here:
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=CN1400384&F=0&QPN=CN1400384
But since nothing real is actually said, I don't see how it can be a real EPO application.