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Overunity Machines Forum



The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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hansvonlieven

There was nothing offensive in what I said, and Gaby, you don't have to pose as eden to make it look as though you have some support fot YOUR offensive behaviour!

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

utilitarian

Quote from: ltseung888 on November 22, 2007, 04:30:23 AM
It is almost impossible to apply a single ideal Lee-Tseung Pull to a swinging pendulum with perfect measurement of its Force and the Energy imparted.  However, the consequence of Lead Out says that we can supply X units of energy to a system, an additional Y units of energy from gravity can be Lead Out.

Did anyone catch this little gem?  Very typical.  Lawrence makes wild claim.  Can it be tested?  Why no, because it is almost impossible to apply the ideal Lee-Tseung pull.  So whatever observations you see that may counter the theory can easily be explained away - the pull was incorrect.

Lawrence, cut the crap.  I have glanced through the thread history, and it is all talk.  The burden of proof is always on the person making the outlandish claim. Put up or shut up.  Show a "Lee-Tseung Pull" that results in more energy in the system that can be explained by the energy imparted in the pull. I am willing to bet my last dime that a clear and verifyable demonstration of this will never happen and can never happen.

The purported devices will always be promised to be out next year some time.  Then, due to some minor setback, the release will always be pushed to one year later.

And what about the AERO competition?  What technical glitch will be excuse for the no show?  The famous Steorn hot bearings are always a good one.

Rosphere

Quote from: utilitarian on November 23, 2007, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: ltseung888 on November 22, 2007, 04:30:23 AM
It is almost impossible to apply a single ideal Lee-Tseung Pull to a swinging pendulum with perfect measurement of its Force and the Energy imparted.  However, the consequence of Lead Out says that we can supply X units of energy to a system, an additional Y units of energy from gravity can be Lead Out.

Did anyone catch this little gem?  ...Can it be tested?  Why no, because it is almost impossible to apply the ideal Lee-Tseung pull.  So whatever observations you see that may counter the theory can easily be explained away - the pull was incorrect.

...The burden of proof is always on the person making the outlandish claim

...Show a "Lee-Tseung Pull" that results in more energy in the system that can be explained by the energy imparted in the pull....

Thank you.  I am hanging-up my free body diagrams and spreadsheet calculations until this issue is resolved.


ltseung888, we need to see a diagram showing this Lee-Tseung Pull.  Another diagram showing how this Lead Out energy can be harnessed without upsetting the horizontal return energy would also be helpful.

Again, perhaps this pendulum example is a poor one to demonstrate your theory.  It may be more applicable to a radiant-electro-magnetic apparatus than a purely gravitational one.  If you are attempting to use this pendulum example as a simple means to demonstrate a theory better applied to another device then you may wish to abandon this avenue of communication.  It does not appear to be having the desired positive effect.  If you plan to stick with it then it appears to be in need of a complete overhaul.  ;)

ltseung888

Quote from: utilitarian on November 23, 2007, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: ltseung888 on November 22, 2007, 04:30:23 AM
It is almost impossible to apply a single ideal Lee-Tseung Pull to a swinging pendulum with perfect measurement of its Force and the Energy imparted.  However, the consequence of Lead Out says that we can supply X units of energy to a system, an additional Y units of energy from gravity can be Lead Out.

Did anyone catch this little gem?  Very typical.  Lawrence makes wild claim.  Can it be tested?  Why no, because it is almost impossible to apply the ideal Lee-Tseung pull.  So whatever observations you see that may counter the theory can easily be explained away - the pull was incorrect.

Lawrence, cut the crap.  I have glanced through the thread history, and it is all talk.  The burden of proof is always on the person making the outlandish claim. Put up or shut up.  Show a "Lee-Tseung Pull" that results in more energy in the system that can be explained by the energy imparted in the pull. I am willing to bet my last dime that a clear and verifyable demonstration of this will never happen and can never happen.

The purported devices will always be promised to be out next year some time.  Then, due to some minor setback, the release will always be pushed to one year later.

And what about the AERO competition?  What technical glitch will be excuse for the no show?  The famous Steorn hot bearings are always a good one.

I said that it was almost impossible to measure a single ideal Lee-Tseung Pull.

But I also quoted the case of Kinetic Theory of Gases.  The collective effect of multiple Lee-Tseung Pulls can be measured. 
These Pulls may not be ideal.

The Hungarian EBM is such a working example.  It leads out gravitational and electron motion (magnetic) energy. 

It has been demonstrated.  It can be demonstrated now.  China has spent milions to place orders.  Engineers are under training.

We are checking whether the AERO competition is another CIA or the Like trick.  We wait for the investigation of the Chinese Intelligence before
we act.  We do not want to repeat the painful experience last year,  We did not check the 225HP Pulse Motor Group.  That set us back many
months.

We are aware of multiple prototypes that can generate 1KW continuously for 72 hours.  Many are invented outside China.  This overunity forum
discussed some of them.  There is no hurry to win the AERO competition.  More competitions and higher prizes are on their way.

The CIA or the Like asked us to shut up and tempted us each with USD12 million.  We even signed a contract.  Will I ever listen to the CIA or the
Like again?  When I feel I have something to share, I post.  We impressed the Chinese Authorities.  That is good enough for me.

Lawrence Tseung
Sharing knowledge with the World Leads Out objections and insults from some sources. 
But why should we care if the goal is to benefit the World
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

utilitarian

Quote from: ltseung888 on November 23, 2007, 05:49:21 PM
I said that it was almost impossible to measure a single ideal Lee-Tseung Pull.

But I also quoted the case of Kinetic Theory of Gases.  The collective effect of multiple Lee-Tseung Pulls can be measured.  These Pulls may not be ideal.

The Hungarian EBM is such a working example.  It leads out gravitational and electron motion (magnetic) energy. 

It has been demonstrated.  It can be demonstrated now.  China has spent milions to place orders.  Engineers are under training.

We are checking whether the AERO competition is another CIA or the Like trick.  We wait for the investigation of the Chinese Intelligence before
we act.  We do not want to repeat the painful experience last year,  We did not check the 225HP Pulse Motor Group.  That set us back many
months.

We are aware of multiple prototypes that can generate 1KW continuously for 72 hours.  Many are invented outside China.  This overunity forum
discussed some of them.  There is no hurry to win the AERO competition.  More competitions and higher prizes are on their way.

The CIA or the Like asked us to shut up and tempted us with USD12 million.  We even signed a contract.  Will I ever listen to the CIA or the
Like again?  When I feel I have something to share, I post.  We impressed the Chinese Authorities.  That is good enough for me.

Lawrence Tseung
Sharing knowledge with the World Leads Out objections and insults from some sources. 
But why should we care if the goal is to benefit the World

Haha, good one on the AERO.  I knew you could find a good reason to pull out!

And again, you are ducking.  Post evidence of a proper Lee-Tseung pull that results in more energy in the system than can be accounted for by the pull.  You cannot, or you would have already.