The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[ltseung888]

Koen1,

You did not kneel down before me.  You are dead meat.

Tseung treats you as the young brother who does not know how to count.  There is no point in teaching you addition.

Go and Study, Study and Study.

Dear Koen1,

You should really study Physics of the spinning top before you comment on 1165 again.  Read at least:

http://www.4physics.com/phy_demo/top/top.html

You will appreciate the complexity of a non-rigid object under rotation and pulse force from within.  Do the water-bottle experiment.  I do not know your hammer-toss game or experiment.  You are encouraged to share that with the World (but not the murmuring of ?the experimenter needs to lean in against the centrifugal pull while he is spinning himself and the weight around?.)  If you did the experiment or watch the videos carefully, the experimenter never spins himself around.

Lawrence Tseung
The curse from the devil may Lead Out some good for Koen1.

[Evil Roy Slade]

Evil people Lead Out dreadful weapon from the Lee-Tseung theory.

You rang?


ERS

[chrisC]

Hans:

Maybe we should ask mingmei for a 4-legged stool sample?

Sorry, I could not help myself.

Bill

Oh Bill! That WAS funny! Poor Tseung had no idea what kind of comedy this thread had become.
I had said I was off my hobby horse a few weeks ago but then Hans and others returned to the show and I couldn't help but got back on my horse.

Now, where were we with the crap head's postulates? Flying saucers and Mingmei joining hands?

Cheers

chrisC

[Koen1]

Koen1,

You did not kneel down before me.  You are dead meat.

Tseung treats you as the young brother who does not know how to count.  There is no point in teaching you addition.

Go and Study, Study and Study.

Shut up, you annoying wannabe devil. Go tell someone else to worship you.
And again, it very suspiciously looks like you are in fact yet another of Tseungs fantasy persona's, which he uses to say things that he can't say as his Tseung persona.
Psychosis sure is an annoying disability...

Dear Koen1,

You should really study Physics of the spinning top before you comment on 1165 again.  Read at least:

http://www.4physics.com/phy_demo/top/top.html

You will appreciate the complexity of a non-rigid object under rotation and pulse force from within.  Do the water-bottle experiment.  I do not know your hammer-toss game or experiment.  You are encouraged to share that with the World (but not the murmuring of ?the experimenter needs to lean in against the centrifugal pull while he is spinning himself and the weight around?.)  If you did the experiment or watch the videos carefully, the experimenter never spins himself around.

Well then maybe you should learn how to describe experiments properly. This is once again caused by your own habit of providing too little exact details on the experiment to actually recreate it exactly, and then, as usual, you dismiss the entire story because it is not exactly as you would like it described... Well, if you expect me to telepathically know exactly what exact idea of the experiment you have in your head then I must disappoint you, I can't do telepathy, I don't know the things you don't tell me.
On the other hand, from my description it seems quite clear what I am talking about; I even gave a brief but clear explanation: we have a person holding a string with a weight on it, the person starts to rotate around his central vertical axis, the weight does so too. Very clear, no videos needed, and impossible not to understand what I'm saying here.
The weight being pulled out by centrifugal force increases the arm of momentum for the system, and the person needs to lean 'back' to compensate for this, or the entire system will become unbalanced and fall over, following the weight. Unless of course the person were replaced by an axle fixed to top and bottom.
Do not tell me that is not true.
Never mind the video, we don't need a video to watch someone spin a weight, we can grab any weight with a cord on it and swing it around ourselves.

It seems to me that you are simply ignoring some of the forces involved.

Same wit your 4-legged stool thing.
You claim that you don't have to push the chair legs, you only have to "lean" against them to make them move. Then, when the leg has moved away so far that you need to take a step to be able to "lean" against it again, you take the step, and then lean against the stool leg again, and so on and so on. The rotational speed will increase, until at some point the persons involved will have to run to keep up with the rotating chair, but the push they exert on the legs is still only the pressure gained from "leaning" against it. This is what you claim, isn't it?
But as the weight of the person "leaning" againts the leg makes the chair move, the person needs to use energy to take the step forward, and to angle himself upward again after having "leaned" from his upright position. Now as the speed of rotation increases, so does the speed at which the persons walk along with the chair, increasing the energy they use to keep up with the chair leg. To keep the force applied to the chair legs the same, additional energy must also be input in the "standing up and leaning over" step. After all, the "leaning" energy is provided by gravity "pulling" the body over, and the speed at which this happens does not increase with the increase of rotational speed of the chair. So to comensate, or in other words to shift the "leaning" ground position along with the angle at which the chair leg can be pushed by "leaning", so that the "leaning" can actually still exert the same relative "push" on the leg, the person has to input energy.
At some point the energy "gained" from the "leaning" action will be lower than the energy input be the people running around pushing the chair. You even admit that at some point, the people pushing will be exhausted.
Well, why do you think they are exhausted? Because the chair spins on its own free energy? Because the people are being pulled along with the chair?
No, they are exhausted because keeping up with the chair has used up all their energy.
And quite probably because an old chinaman with a whip has been urging them to keep going.

What you describe with the 4-legged chair story as claimed to be used in the wang generator, seems to be somewhat similar to
putting the chair+bowl on a still platform, surrounded by a platform that can rotate around the central point of the chair, and where we place the people
pushing on the rotating platform. Now we have the people lean againt the chair legs, so that the chair+bowl start to move. Now we make the outer
platform rotate along with the same speed as the chair, and we have the people lean against the chair all the time. All good so far. Although it would be equally effective to do away with the people and the outer platform, and simply apply the energy input to rotate the platform directly into the chair to make it spin.
Now you claim that you can somehow use the rotation of the chair+bowl to make the outer platform+people spin, which keeps the chair+bowl spinning.
That does not make sense.

now you can keep spouting tons of blabla on how other people should study more, or on how they just can't grasp your genious ideas, but that gets you nowhere.
And posting dumb discussions between fantasy students, aliens, cia agents, misguided free energy studying couples, or whatever also does not help your case one iota.
Why don't you simply, but in a clear and detailed fashion, describe exactly what happens, and what basis there is to conclude this, in a way similar to my descriptions?
Describe exactly how such a system could, in your view, be used to generate free continuous rotation or electrical energy output.
No bullshit about me having to first replicate your poorly described and badly explained experiments, before you are willing to comment on them. That's what you do all the time, and then after some discussion you simply drop the subject and ignore any posts on it, or you try to make the person questionig you look bad by using invalid excuses or insulting them using one of your fantasy personas. That is just not the way to do it, and you must realise this.


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[todd.hathaway]

Lawrence,

I am on standby to provide security support for adv energy techs for AERO, which means travel plans for me anyway are out the window for the forseeable future.  An energy delegation would have to more forward without my attendance, unfortunately.  Suggested course of action is to present open source techs at the Olympics, and invite everyone to the demos, similar to what I have done online at www.green-salon.com.

Todd


The following project list is being provided by Mr. Lee Cheung Kin for your delegate to select on your upcoming visit to the Far East. As claimed by Mr. Lee, all the projects are based on the ?Lee ?Tseung Lead Out? theory by extracting energy from the Gravitational and/or Magnetic energy reservoirs by different inventors in China. Please be advised that these projects hardware can only be seen at different locations in China and some travel time is required and will also incur the needed traveling expenses. Most of the inventors are looking for investors or investment to allow them to fully develop the hardware for marketing purposes. Mr. Lee will be the coordinator with the individual inventor for your delegate?s visit. Please review and response with your desire to Mr. Lee at your earliest convenience. 

A.   The following are gravitational energy reservoir related projects:

Project #1 - Electrical power generation to be used on motor vehicle system.
                    Location ? to be arranged.
Project #2 ? Electrical power generation via air ionization (indirectly ?lead out?
    gravitational energy). Location ? Shenzhen City, next to Hong Kong.
      Project #3 ? Still air energy water pumping system (indirectly ?lead out? gravitational energy). Location ? Hong Kong/Taiwan.
      Project #4 ? Utilize gravitational force to ?lead out? water floatation energy to generate electricity. Location ? Hong Kong.
      Project #5 -  Utilize water floatation energy to ?lead out? gravitational energy to generate electricity. Location ? City of YeungZhou, China.
      Project #6 ? Electrical power generation from ?leading out? of gravitational energy reservoir. Location ? City of Guangzhou, China.

B.   The following are magnetic wave energy reservoir related projects:

Project #7 ? Electricity generation from magnetic energy reservoir. This is the
                     Wang Shen Ho system being coordinated by Lawrence.
Project #8 ? Electricity generation from magnetic energy reservoir. This is a
                    225 HP power generator purchased from the U.S. 
Project #9 ? Electricity generation from magnetic wave energy system. A 225
                    HP magnetic wave power generating system . Location ? Hong
                    Kong.
Project #10 ? A dynamic magnetic wave energy power amplification system.
                    Location ? Tsing Hua University, Beijing,
Project #11 ? A static magnetic wave energy power generating system
                    without moving part.   Location ? Japan.
Project #12 ? Wireless electrical power delivery system. Location ? City of
                     Guangzhou, China.
Project #13 ? Earth Magnetic field power generating system. Location ? City
                      of Guangzhou, China.

Project #14 - Electrical power generation from gravitational energy plus
                      magnetic energy. Location ? City of Guangzhou, China.
Project #15 ? Electrical power generation from gravitational energy plus
                      Electro-magnetic energy (efficiency of G>>g). This system will
                      not be affected by angular positioning during motion. Location ?
                      unknown.
Project #16 - Electrical power generation system from gravitational energy
                      plus Electro-magnetic energy (efficiency of G<< 0). Suitable for
                      rocket and flying saucer propulsion engine. Location ? unknown.


Compiled by Bill Fung on Jan.11, 2008