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Overunity Machines Forum



Newman machine with a closed loop selfrunning without batteries or solar panels

Started by hartiberlin, July 26, 2007, 09:40:54 PM

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shruggedatlas

I had my hopes up and then I actually went to the website to see some of the past videos.  Does this guy strike anyone else as very dubious? 

First of all, he claims he got his invention with the help of God.  He certainly is entitled to his faith, but in a scientific presentation, can we leave God out of this?

Next, he makes this proud claim how his device, with the help of 4 sets of solar panels, can pump 5000 gallons of water per day.  Now 5000 gallons sounds like a large number, but really it is not that much over a 24 hour period.  It is only 3.47 gallons per minute, and it really looks like just a trickle coming out of that pipe.  I am not at all convinced that the four sets of solar panels could not do this on their own.  Heck, why even have them?  If you claim over unity, just run off a battery and keep recharging it.  It would be simple enough to do with water - just have a water wheel that turns and generates power.

Also, there was another video with a truck in the beginning, claiming 100,000% efficiency.  So let me get this straight - the motor puts out 1000 times more energy than is put into it?  And showing us the truck moving at about 5 miles per hour is a good demonstration of the motor's power?

RunningBare

Quote from: shruggedatlas on August 08, 2007, 10:47:52 AM
I had my hopes up and then I actually went to the website to see some of the past videos.  Does this guy strike anyone else as very dubious? 

First of all, he claims he got his invention with the help of God.  He certainly is entitled to his faith, but in a scientific presentation, can we leave God out of this?

Next, he makes this proud claim how his device, with the help of 4 sets of solar panels, can pump 5000 gallons of water per day.  Now 5000 gallons sounds like a large number, but really it is not that much over a 24 hour period.  It is only 3.47 gallons per minute, and it really looks like just a trickle coming out of that pipe.  I am not at all convinced that the four sets of solar panels could not do this on their own.  Heck, why even have them?  If you claim over unity, just run off a battery and keep recharging it.  It would be simple enough to do with water - just have a water wheel that turns and generates power.

Also, there was another video with a truck in the beginning, claiming 100,000% efficiency.  So let me get this straight - the motor puts out 1000 times more energy than is put into it?  And showing us the truck moving at about 5 miles per hour is a good demonstration of the motor's power?

Nice logical summary

The reason the truck had to move slow was the load of gearing down required because the motor has extremely low torque, anyone who has replicated a newman motor can test this easily, my motor has been running on the same 12 volt 18ah battery for near 4 days now, voltage has dropped from 12.5v to 11.86v, which sounds impressive until you test the torque which is low because the current through the coil is low hence the magnet flux is low.

ltseung888

Please read the theory behind the Newman machine in

http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?t=8

Newman et al can now demonstrate a totally closed system - no need for solar panels.

It is just a case of Pulsed Rotation Leading Out Electron Motion Energy and Gravitational Energy.  The efficiency can be greatly improved.

Lawrence Tseung
Boat in Calm Water and Good Sunshine Scenario Leads Out unified explanation of most Over Unity Inventions.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

shruggedatlas

Quote from: RunningBare on August 08, 2007, 11:07:19 AM

Nice logical summary

The reason the truck had to move slow was the load of gearing down required because the motor has extremely low torque, anyone who has replicated a newman motor can test this easily, my motor has been running on the same 12 volt 18ah battery for near 4 days now, voltage has dropped from 12.5v to 11.86v, which sounds impressive until you test the torque which is low because the current through the coil is low hence the magnet flux is low.

Well, if the torque is really low, that leads me to believe the machine is not putting out 1000 times the energy going in.  I realize that torque is not the same as energy, because with torque there is a force vector involved (force applied to keep an object rotating, or something like that), but really, the amount of torque generated by a motor should correlate with energy output.  (If it doesn't, please correct me on how I am wrong - I am not an engineer.)  So, either the amount of energy being put in is so low, that even multiplying it by 1000 is not enough to get the truck moving at a decent speed, or, more likely, the 100,000% percent figure is just flat out wrong.

I do not understand why Newman would exaggerate - even 101% efficiency, if proven, is enough to be considered revolutionary.  Why make such grand claims?

Also, thank you Lawrence for the link to the explanation of the device.  I will await the results of the closed loop test.

Sataur

I find shruggedatlas' conclusion parallel to mine. With regards to his so-called 'god inspired' solar panel machine, calculations were done in another thread which proved that the solar panels used could in fact pump considerably more water than his machine on any normal water pump, which thus proved that his machine was merely a large mechanical capacitor (flywheel) that very inefficiently moved water.

If he has such contact with god, who is all-knowing, why can't god just tell him that secret loophole in physics, or perhaps inform him on the sciences we have yet to discover or comprehend.

It seems kind of silly of god to, given that he/she/it is trying to save humanity, bestow someone with the money and potential to save humanity with knowledge that is fundamentally flawed.


And I'd be quite surprised if this device of his comes within even .000026% of the speed of light (2,640 feet per second, or half a mile a second) before ripping itself apart due rotational pull. And at 7.,500 lbs, that would be a lot of energy stored up.