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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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guruji

Hi Guys on the videos of Ravi it says that inductors should be wound straight not bifilar on each rod. Does this mean that with one coil only?
Thanks

canufi

Quote from: Dyamios on August 18, 2007, 06:02:03 PM
H2O doesn't even vibrate in any electrical fashion, let alone has the capacity to hold resonant energy.

The word Resonance has many different meanings. Stan Meyer was specifically referring to the Dielectric breakdown level of water.  He has stated this in the video called "lost" tapes interview. Unfortunately a lot of people have misinterpreted resonance to mean something else, such as how glass cracks if you sing at a certain pitch. Water is not like glass - water is an electric fluid  with a specific dielectric breakdown.  It has a weak dielectric strength which means it will leak and discharge, so his circuit was built to avoid setting the capacitor off too early.

My youtube channel has more information on the theory and physics of Stan Meyer:
http://www.youtube.com/user/canufi

Quote from: Dyamios on August 18, 2007, 06:02:03 PM
Therefore electrolysis can NEVER under ANY type of circumstance be more than 99% efficient.

Stan was using dielectric breakdown of water, similar to a spark plug that breaks down air and the air becomes a conductor. Faraday did not do dielectric breakdown turning water into a plasma - faraday used chemicals and chemistry.

Please learn about dielectric breakdown, plasma, avalanche effect, and turning water into a conductor. Faraday used water as a resistor, causing heat. Stan used water as a CONDUCTOR, which is the opposite of a resistor. All the information is available on my youtube channel called canufi.

Stan was a jesus loving religious nut - I'm a non religious skeptic here to put the rigor and physical theory into Stan's work. Stan was slightly delusional, as was Tesla. Tesla invented many things and was obsessed with the number 3, which was not scientific - it was delusional. Inventors are delusional wackjobs and you have to get over that. Stan would have never put all this money time and effort into a scam like this, there are much easier ways of scamming people then using known scientific processes such as dielectric breakdown. If Stan did defraud people, it wasn't intentional - it was because of his delusions. There is a big difference between purposely scamming someone, versus being delusional and ripping someone off by accident because you made a mistake in your understanding.

canufi

Quote from: raburgeson on March 22, 2010, 12:09:23 PM
Well try to get to the truth from the internet. Here's the buzz, Dr Roger Leir has gotten hold of the car. Now here's my take on it. If anyone got hold of the car it wasn't until after something was done to it to make it a nonworking piece of crap. The government and oil cartels would not let that car out without fake replicated parts that do not perform. We all know the drill, it works, it don't work.

Stephen Meyer, Stan's brother, should be able to get it working since he would know more about the dials and knobs on the car and how to set them. For whatever reason, Stephen seems to have done absolutely dick all to help the project... I don't think he quite understands the significance of what Stan was doing. Stephen seems to be diddling around with other things and inventing supposedly better devices... but what about KISS? Why can't someone just show a simple demonstration of a device instead of all this complex crap?

sparks

 google hydrinos.  It has alot to do with Myers water cell.  The science behind hydrinos is that electrons can drop to a lower ground state in a hydrogen atom.  This drop releases photons just like any other quantom leap. Myers clearly explains that his resonance was setup using the capacitance of the cell and tunable inductors to maintain an electric field stimulation of the water.  Dielectric breakdown was avoided.  The excitation or power input was therefore limited to resistave losses in the tank circuit.  The electric field was then used to hydrolise the water efficiently.  But it didn't end there.  The hydrogen once leaving the cell was molecular hydrogen.  This is two hydrogen atoms covalently bonded.  He had various ways of ionizing the molecular hydrogen into a plasma.  He also employed methods of electron sequestering or removal from the plasma.  This allows atomic hydrogen to exist in greater proportion to molecular.  All of the aforementioned processes use energy.  Now comes the part that ties into hydrinos.  Atomic hydrogen suppose to be as low as you can go as far as atomic ground state.  But if the electrons are forced to cool or loose their at rest energy then you get hydrinos as a product and photons are emitted.  (have no idea of the frequency of these photons but believe they must be of very short wavelengths.)  These photons then start supplying the ionization process with radiation.  This radiation begins to support the whole ionization electron cooling power needs. As molecular hydrogen arrives in the reactor more and more hydrinos are produced.  Producing more and more photons to produce more and more hydrinos.  The whole deal is primed.  Recombination of the hydrinos with oxygen results in an exothermic reaction like rapid oxidation of anything does.  Oversimplified I am sure
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Quote from: microcontroller on May 25, 2012, 02:10:52 PM
Sparks:

HOW can electrons jump to a lower ground state in Hydrogen atom?
There is only one electron and so it is in the lowest band on the Hydrogen atom.

Care to explain?

Also, Stan describes he was seperating the water by momentarilly pulling away orbital electrons from the water molecule see Fig 1.9
And you can see the dielectric breakdown at the end of the pulse train in figure 1.3 this is the point where the water breaks down.

Stan was using a stainless steel that has a highly resistive coating.  I look on this as the dielectric.  The water has dielectric properties but the gasses leaving the water isn't like a dielectric rupture.  The voltage read across the cell drops when the pulse train stops due to the capacity of the cell dumping back into the line thru the series inductors.  One of the inductors is variable and tuned according to the capacity of the cell to make the circuit resonant.  More bang for the input buck.
  As far as hydrinos they're pretty controversial.  Intuitive but controversial.  I'm sure a Mathmatical physicists could do a little tweaking on some of the more famous and heavily relied on equations and explain them. 
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