Rotational PMM by wizkycho

[ooandioo]

Ok, this is allready cheaper.
Before ordering, we should specify some details about the design itself. What type of steel are we using? Silicone Steel? From where can you get it and how to manipulate for our needs?
How will you apply the whole system? I'm afraid we forgot something. The whole idea seems so "easy" that i cannot imagine anybody tried it before us...

-- Andi

[Light]

You right again, ooandioo.
Listen nobody, just try and try.
Sorry, I tried to "prove" something. It never work. I remember myself, when I thought my ideas best of all and was very angry, when some "bad" guys tried to open my eyes...till did it myself and proved my wrong.
So try. Even if it won't work (no doubt, system's closed), you'll get experience.
Good luck.

[wizkycho]

Ok, this is allready cheaper.
Before ordering, we should specify some details about the design itself. What type of steel are we using? Silicone Steel? From where can you get it and how to manipulate for our needs?
How will you apply the whole system? I'm afraid we forgot something. The whole idea seems so "easy" that i cannot imagine anybody tried it before us...

-- Andi

the chenees manufacturer actally adds 135USD express freight to a price of magnet so the complete price for
N40 magnet is Total Sum: USD 223.95 which is about a price that your manufacturer offers (but for 5 and more pieces).

Knowone has tested this device - I have conducted some additional Femm analysis and the more I think of it the more it works. The device is not that simple to construct - we have two rotors that are not connected in any way.It would need two bearings per rotor so the shaft is centered at all times.
You can get silicon iron from allmost any manufacturer of transformers. You will get thin sheets and that is what is needed - so will be able to slowly thickens the shield till we get proper small attraction/distance ratio.

The device is allso not that simple to understand (first look). See what Light says.
The thing is that two rotors are closed system but forgeting that one of them opens to outside source of energy
which is represented by ring magnet. The complete device is actually very Open system. At a point Where You bring Diesel I bring Permanent magnetism.

Igor

[wizkycho]

You right again, ooandioo.
Listen nobody, just try and try.
Sorry, I tried to "prove" something. It never work. I remember myself, when I thought my ideas best of all and was very angry, when some "bad" guys tried to open my eyes...till did it myself and proved my wrong.
So try. Even if it won't work (no doubt, system's closed), you'll get experience.
Good luck.

One rotor (Output rotor) is in Opened system to outside ring magnet when shield moves away.
outside ring magnet is actally what Diesel is to your car. Shield is only making potential (diesel pump) for diesel to get
to your motor. diesel pump needs much much less energy than your motor outputs.

This is the completely true analogy. Please make it wrong !

igor

[ooandioo]

Femm analysis seems very interesting and the system itself seems logically to me.
I did some tests in femm with thinner shield and outer magnet closer to it - flux density is also much stronger between inner and outer magnets when shield is removed as the force between outer magnet and shield appeares, when shield is applied.

What else can you say about attraction of the steel shields to the ring magnet. Perhaps force to move the shield will be equal to force you get out of the system?

-- Andi