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Overunity Machines Forum



SMOT OU?

Started by argona369, September 10, 2007, 02:54:22 PM

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Ergo

I'm opening this thread again.

Quote from: hartiberlin on September 22, 2007, 05:53:47 AM
I must agree, that Omnibus sometimes is using bad words,
but I also understand why he is doing it.

As most people just don?t realize, that the SMOT really works and
is overunity.

How often do we have to explain it again and again ????

Just because we are sceptics that really needs more than words and crappy videos as proof.

Quote from: hartiberlin on September 22, 2007, 05:53:47 AM
There are several videos out there, that show without a doubt,
that the SMOT ball gains energy ba going through the ramp.

There is no point anymore in discussion.
The problem still is to get it used.

I haven't seen a single video that proves anything more than you are getting sligthly more output of the SMOT before returning the ball.
This gain is so small that any attempt to drain energy from the ball will prevent the possibility to return the ball.

Quote from: hartiberlin on September 22, 2007, 05:53:47 AM
Nobody has yet build a longer SMOT ramp of e.g. 1 Meter long and
a bigger height difference, so the energy gain is enough to
loop the ball back to the entrance.

Let's hope someone takes their time and builds one.

Quote from: hartiberlin on September 22, 2007, 05:53:47 AM
Only Greg Watson and Epitaxyhad been having looped SMOTs,
but as they did build it so small, in scale, the friction influence was
just too big all the time and the ball sticked after a few cycles to the
track, because it was too much accelerated, etc...

So where is this video then. I'd like to see it.
Then again, if the ball is getting magnetized, what is preventing a LARGE ball from getting magnetized?
Well, really nothing at all. The same rules apply at larger scales.

Quote from: hartiberlin on September 22, 2007, 05:53:47 AM
The SMOT really needs a big setup with very precise mechanical
building and very precise control of the running ball, otherwise you will not get it to loop.

Perhaps it will loop but any attempt to drain energy will stop the ball.
So I question the energy output from a SMOT in a large scale setup.

Quote from: hartiberlin on September 22, 2007, 05:53:47 AM
But please stop the flamewar and hammering onto Omnibus.

OK will do, as long as he behaves himself and perhaps present the looped SMOT he tells us he have built.
Otherwise he is just a liar and not to be thrusted. I know, hard words, but I don't like lies.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3245.msg50721.html#msg50721

Quote from: hartiberlin on September 22, 2007, 05:53:47 AM
The SMOT principle works.

If you say so. I'll wait for the proof. Perhaps some day in the far far future.....  ;)


RunningBare

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This gain is so small that any attemt to drain energy from the ball will prevent the posibillity to return the ball.

There is no gain in SMOT, only one person has shown a continuosly running SMOT and thats Finsrud, but even thats doubtful because he won't let anybody near it for a detailed inspection.

only one person that I've seen claims to have got the ball to run 3 times around a SMOT ramp before it comes to rest, so in the end if there were any gain it was lost to the ball and friction.

Omnibus

Quote from: RunningBare on September 23, 2007, 08:09:32 AM
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This gain is so small that any attemt to drain energy from the ball will prevent the posibillity to return the ball.

There is no gain in SMOT, only one person has shown a continuosly running SMOT and thats Finsrud, but even thats doubtful because he won't let anybody near it for a detailed inspection.

only one person that I've seen claims to have got the ball to run 3 times around a SMOT ramp before it comes to rest, so in the end if there were any gain it was lost to the ball and friction.
Enough with this nonsense. SMOT produces excess energy (energy from nothing) without doubt as definitively proven in analyses such as this: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2733.30.html#msg40090. What remains now is to succeed in the engineering effort (a really difficult engineering task) to put this violation of CoE to practical use.