Control Inside?

[wattsup]

@all (long post) (maybe grab a coffee. lol)

OK, I spent a considerable amount of time reviewing the videos again and again, taking closeup shots and inspecting them very carefully, making notes and drawing rough sketches to get as much as possible of what's going on inside the TPU ring.

The previous posts as well as this one are not based on presumptions. They are based on concrete observations of the TPU and I am only describing as precisely as possible a rendition of the TPU through its many aspects AS IT IS PRESENTED. When I am not sure, I state so, as in the taped bundles indicated in the wiring diagram above.

I will also have to make a few changes to the wiring diagram shown on my previous post. I saw some more things. Nothing major but enough to warrant some changes.

Now with both diagrams, we can put this TPU together and get a better complete idea of what this is made of. Given these concrete elements, it will be easier to postulate what the circuitry could be doing in the center black box. Suffice it to say I do not think it was using frequencies in the sense that Otto is doing with his mosfets, function generator, etc. I think this TPU is basically using what Tesla did over 100 years ago. And potentially, we will see if it could have done so or if it had to have an internal battery system to keep it going. Ultimately, I feel SM was faking the batteryless TPU that was just a current multiplier, by hiding the batteries under the center platform. But for the purposes of this observation, I will not go there.

- So here it is. -

The first meaningful thing SM ever said about the TPU was when he gave the Tesla style technique "apply a capacitor discharge to a wire, but stop the current before it could reach the end of the wire". For brevity, I am abbreviating this Tesla action as "ACCREW".

The ACCREW was SMs' first premise for explaining how his TPU works. This premise, once you know how the TPU is made, will be put to the test as I will do further down.

A 17" TPU has a circumference of 53.38 inches or 4.4833 feet.

I have identified that the TPU has 6 horizontal white wires as shown in the drawing below. So if you had a continuous discharge wire going around the circumference for 6 turns, on the outside but in one continuous wire, this would give 26.8998 feet of wire (rounded to 27 feet) traveling horizontally over the TPU core.

I call these the discharge wires. You can see the wires are mounted on to the exterior of the core via horizontal indentations at three levels, bottom, middle and top, into which is positioned these horizontal discharge wires.

The solid core material of the ring is unknown, but I would imagine it is made of a nonmagnetic or diamagnetic material to push the sparks from the discharge wire loop to its intersecting vertical collector coils.

There are three collector coils in parallel wound over the core all in the same direction. Tests can also be done with the three collectors in series, making one 360 degree collector. But I am more inclined to think the three collectors are in parallel to increase the output amperage level.

Now, when SM measured the vertical height of the ring, he placed his tape measure on the outside of the ring and did not take into account that the ring recedes into the second base platform. Why? Why would he wish to avoid this question when we all can see it on the cut-aways. Nobody made the link.

So if the ring was actually 5" high by 1" thick, this would give a vertical circumference of 12" or one foot per turn for the collector coils.

Now here I may be wrong but I see the collector vertically wound wire to be AWG #14. I have measured that an AWG #14 collector coil wire takes 8 turns per inch, so this gives a total of 427 turns as a single 360 degree collector coil or 142 turns on each of three 120 degree collectors.

There are two other coils wrapped to the left and right of the collector coil zero point. I imagine these are what we call the control coils and have identified them as Exterior Coil #1 and #2. I don't know enough about this coil set yet but I do know it has nothing to do with pulsing the current. The wires are coming from the two internal inductor coils so these could be in parallel to the control coils since they lead right into the control coil sections. Actually, I guessing here, the control coils are in parallel with the two inductor coils and help feed the black box circuit via "flyback" and via the magnetic fields picked up by the inductor coils. So both the inductor coils and the control coils work in tandem to energize the control circuitry. We'll get to that in the next posts.

So in actual fact there are only two potential coils that can receive the Tesla technique. Either the 27 foot horizontal ring or the 427 foot collector coils. This is so because to do a Tesla spark discharge into an adjoining coil set, both windings have to be crossed at 90 degrees. Since the control coil is vertical like the collector coil, there cannot be such an exchange between them. We are logically therefore left with the discharge wires horizontal into the collector coil verticals.

Now to apply an ACCREW, we know the switching system has to be extremely, I mean very extremely fast at the short wire lengths we are talking about.

Here's some of the math.

Electricity travels at 185000 miles per second divided by 5280 feet per mile = 976,800,000 feet per second.
To do an ACCREW before;
27 feet = faster than 36,177,777 cycles per second.
427 feet = faster than 2,856,140 cycles per second.

OK here's where I will leave it up to the EE's to decide if this is actually possible or not to accomplish. I do not know how you would be able to do an ACCREW at 27 feet.

Now doing an ACCREW at 427 feet would seem illogical as the amount of energy required to saturate a collector coil of this length would be greater than the amount of energy you will be able to capture via the 6 rings. So it has to be the other way around. ACCREW in 27 feet. But this is next to impossible.

So then you have to ask yourself, WHY WOULD SM GIVE AN analogy to a specific action that is next to impossible to achieve. We're talking about more than 27 million iterations per second. This does not seem logical at all.

But what if, and this is asked because I do not know from observation (yet), but what if the discharge wire was a Litz type with individually insulated wire strands. These strands could be connected in series to increase the final wire length. 10 strands = 270 feet, 20 strands = 540 feet, etc.

But just to put the problem into perspective, if you wanted to do an ACCREW on 27
feet of Litz wire at 5000 cycles per second, the Litz wire would have to have 7235 strands of individual insulated wires connected in series. Ouch. That's one fat mamma.

So between one extreme and another, I'll leave it to the EEers here to see what is the maximum upper limit and what effect that would have on the number of Litz conductors required. Circumference = length = potential series multiplication = cycles per second to do an ACCREW.

Then again, maybe SM did not calculate this impossibility before he decided to share it with us. Or maybe he does not care because his device works off of 206 batteries and he thinks we'll never know the truth.

In this thread, you now all have the most precise description of the 17" TPU possible, as it stood on that dining table, in the near dark. But you know what. We're not that stupid to believe just anything. This group has traveled through many issues, and it will ultimately know the truth, through logic, deductive reasoning and close OBJECTIVE observation. Like I said before. Fraud or not, I don't care. I just want the truth and will look at both sides. Any true blue OU investigator would do the same.

More to continue......

wattsup

[bolt]

27 million iterations per second. = 27 megs = CB radio not high frequency at all.  However the tpu is not a a high voltage coil like tesla or anything resembling it or the theory. The group has wasted a year doing pulses on mosfets and getting no where. I do see a trend change in the last few weeks now i been pushing constantly for pure sine but now only that some have come to realize that if you are not prepared to follow SM's instructions then you will never get a working tpu. SM was an audio engineer. He understood the qualities of pure sine low distortion amps and VERY wide bandwidth.Your going to have to build it! Your hi fi amp just will never work nor will your PC sound card. These qualities are much easier with tube amps. The QAUD tube amp built about 1956 still exceeds the spec of most todays amps BUT last 10 years of mosfets have closed the gap. In 1996 mosfet were still rather shaky.

1) Make a big one
2) Use pure stable sines
3) stick the controls in the center.

So the longer you stay with spark coil thoughts,  telsa thoughts of making EHT and RE like bedini and are not prepared to advance bench testing beyond one collector loop with 3 bobbins of wire fired from pulses and square waves then another  5 years will pass with no progress.

This is exaclty why SM said only knowledgeable engineers with access to quality equipment have a chance to succeed. Kitchen table builders extremely unlikely. So whats my idea of knowledgeable? Someone who is capable of making good home build audio amplifiers and may even know how without once looking at a circuit diagram. Home build HAM radio guys fit this bill too especially if they made a number of radio receivers and RF power transmitters over the last 10 or  20+ years. This type of guy is more likely to succeed then a highly qualified EE thats hasn't touched a soldering iron for decades and far too wedged into conventional theory. This is not to put people of trying but be reasonable we are dealing with something a bit more complicated then a first project crystal set or a 555 electronic egg timer.

[ronotte]

@Wattsup,

A MONTROUS WORK! THANK YOU

I tried many time to do similar detailed description ...but never had the time to take it to the end. Now I'm studyng your results and hope to help in some way.

Roberto

[dutchy1966]

Hi WattsUp,everyone

First of all, GREAT work WattsUp!!

The thing that struck me straight away when I saw your new drawing was the alignment of the 6 loops in a 1/2/3 seperation.
I immediately got the feeling that this has something to do with the 1st 2nd and 3rd harmonics for the frequencies being fed into the tpu.
Thats is probably why SM said it is important to make three rings....
I think there is still another oprion of how these are arranged. The single one is a loop on its own. The second and third are in series and then numbers 4,5 and 6 form a coil in series.....

Hope you can understand what i'm trying to explain...

Still thinking about what the consequence is of this discovery.....

regards

Robert

[ronotte]

Hi all

@Wattsup,

a thing that seems clear to me is that on top of the 'infamous' TPU slice cutted by SM during the big loop demo,

THERE ARE APPARENTLY 3 WINDINGS OF FLAT KIND ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER, & NOTHING ON THE MIDDLE! SIMILAR BUT BIGGER 'SOMETHING' ROUND ON THE BOTTOM,

as it turns clear on the attached enhanced slice pic. This seems in contrast with the suggested coil's geometry. What do you think about?.

Roberto