Tesla Switch need help

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hi all

first of all, apologies for long post and also i don't mean to hijack this thread -  i'm just responding to what appears to be some very relevant posts above - happy for this stuff to be moved elsewhere if necessary.

i'm very excited to see that someone else is getting confirmatory results with switched cap charging - i was beginning to doubt my measurements (only have very basic facilities available)

i've been running some experiments on & off over the last couple of years with a kind of Jensen UDT transformer i made, with both negistor osc & switched pulse types of input, very similar to this thread - looking for evidence of more energy transferred & reclaimed (no clear evidence so far)

however, i was recently inspired by reading one of H. Aspden's 'papers' where he was discussing the possibility of anomalous energy behaviour of capacitors

i decided to setup some simple experiments to extend my experiments & repetitively charge & discharge caps & look for evidence of unexpected results

well, with pretty much my first attempt (CCT 1, if i manage to upload the JPGS) i found i got a resulting charge anomaly:

i pre-charged 3 1F super-caps in series to 6V & disharged into a 1F super-cap, stopping when the output cap was at 2V (the caps are rated at 2.3V), input cap had 2.7V remaining

If my understanding of cap charge maths is correct (& i don't claim to be an expert here) this is the outcome of the experiment:

Total charge in: (Q = V * C)
Qin = 6V * (1/3)F = 2 Coulombs

Total charge out: (sum of charges on all caps)
Q1 = 2.7V * (1/3)F = 0.9 Coulombs

Q2 = 2V * 1F = 2 Coulombs

ie.  total input charge: 2 Coulombs -  total output charge: 2.9 Coulombs!

er, didn't somebody famous mention something about 'Conservation of Charge'

ok, so i've gone on to refine the circuit a few times - looking to investigate the energy implications of these findings

in a later circuit, which includes a transformer in a kind of feed-forward mode i managed to discharge a 0.25F cap stack from 8V down to 6.5V, resulting in a charged similar second stack to 2.5V - PLUS - i reclaimed 0.6V in a third similar stack thro' the transformer

so on three equivalent cap values i used up 1.5V worth of charge from one to generate over 3V total of charge on another pair

(again, if i've been able to upload, scope trace '2 cap charge.jpg' showing input cap dischrge & final charges on output cap & 'reclaim' cap)

i should mention that the switching for all these experiments were self-powered by the charge on the input caps - no external Sig Gens or PSUs (i used some CMOS schmidt trigger inverted NAND gates with RC feedback)

i realise that a charge anomaly is not yet an energy anomaly  - but it's a start!

i'll see if i can get these JPG uploaded now

sandy

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circuit 1 for my post above

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circuit 2...

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circuits 3 & 4 (including supposed 'UDT' transformer)...

sandy

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I think your post is the first one in this thread that is exactly "on" topic because nobody has fully addressed "what" happens when energy is moved from one place to another and where losses are incurred.There seems to be this preoccupation with electronics and switching which is part of the problem and not part of the solution. To put it simply--- your circuit works because you have added an inductance, you will have large losses when shuttling energy with caps or batteries unless you add a large self-inductance to give your circuit the necessary momentum. A tuned LC circuit has very few losses relative to a pure inductive circuit (motors, generators) or a pure capacitive circuit (batteries,capacitors). L and C must always be used together for maximum efficiency as they complement each others actions.
There was a question in a previous post as to why equalizing capacitors magically lose half of there energy, add a large self-inductance to the circuit and I can assure you your energy will magically reappear--- the question is why? I think if we are to move forward we have to start looking past the equations and component values and start looking at the properties and qualities of every component and how they interact together.