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DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project

Started by hansvonlieven, October 03, 2007, 02:04:46 AM

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hansvonlieven

    The Dissociation of Water

A Keely Project 



This  Project is an attempt to re-create Keely?s system of Aqueous Disintegration.

Since trying to duplicate Keely?s system with acoustic resonators is difficult to do and prohibitively expensive, the idea is to use modern electronic equipment to arrive at the required wave forms.

On the surface this sounds like an easy task, you simply take a number of oscillators and generate the chords that Keely?s system calls for and subject some water to the resulting vibrations and, if Keely is right, this should work.

In reality there are a number of hurdles with this approach that Keely did not have to battle with, though the generation of the primary wave forms can be done with the same accuracy that Keely stipulates but with much more flexibility and far less effort.

My basic approach is visible in the attached diagram. Please bear in mind that this is a diagram of the basic principle only. As it has been pointed out when I first published the diagram, if I used that much water and if I was lucky enough to reproduce Keely?s results, there would be little left standing of the house and I would not be around to tell the tale. It was a fair comment.

Any attempt to dissociate water is fraught with at least some danger and the threat of an explosion is always there.

In the coming posts I will go through the system step by step describing the software and hardware being used in detail. This is a project that is currently being actively worked on by a number of people and reports of any progress and failures will be forthcoming as they occur.

This is meant to be an open sourced project, so please feel free to contribute and/or criticise along the way.

For the moment I will stick with the carrier frequency that Keely allegedly used though I have reservations about this, a subject I shall address when it comes to frequencies.

Hans von Lieven

When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Pirate88179

Hans:

Can you tell us what the two devices are in the reactor?  Are they accoustic generators or speakers of somekind?  Would the temperature of the water change the frequency or frequencies required due to the difference in density?  Sorry for all of the questions but this project of yours is very interesting to me. I wish you all of the success possible.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

hansvonlieven

G.day Bill,

As I said, the above diagram is an in principle arrangement only. In this example there is depicted a simple way of introducing the waveform into the water by means of two electrodes. This is the most direct way possible. This is also the approach taken by Stanley Meyers, Kanzius and Fleischmann and Pons in their cold fusion experiment.

I do not believe that this system will be successful as far as the Keely phenomenon is concerned, though for the sake of thoroughness it must be tried and thoroughly investigated.

Keely was working with PRESSURE WAVES. They behave in a different fashion to electromagnetic waves and are, in my humble view, an essential component in Keely's system.

This is one of the major hurdles I spoke of earlier that Keely did not have to contend with.

Traditional transducers are not of much use here as they do not have the required frequency response. Keely relies on the creation of powerful overtones way beyond the inaudible, something that can be achieved with resonators in an atmospheric medium, but not with loudspeakers, piezo electric transducers and the like because of their structure.

I am working on a number of ideas how to do this which I will publish here as part of this research programme, so please be patient for a few days.

Each stage of the above diagram will be discussed in detail, I am working on it now.

Never feel sorry for asking questions, it is for people like you that I am writing this.

I have always felt that each piece of knowledge that we gather as we go through life carries with it an obligation. The obligation is to pass it on freely to anyone who needs or wants it.

Most of what I have learned came from others and their willingness to share and to educate. Once having learned it it is now my turn to pass it on. Without that we would be still living in caves and throw rocks at each other.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Pirate88179

Hans:

Thank you for your answers, and I will be patient, although I don't like to be..ha ha. As far as your attitude on passing along knowledge and information, very well said. If everyone had your attitude, we would all be better off for it.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Grumpy

IronHead went beyond Meyers' work.  You might look up his posts on this forum concerning electrolysis cells and HHO.  Lot of good stuff there.
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