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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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elias

Quote from: nul-points on December 25, 2007, 08:54:48 PM
hi again

first up, an anomaly is reported - can we explain it by conventional understanding? if we can then we move on - if we can't then it's worth exploring more (the anomalous behaviour might prove useful in it's own right, of course)

i read this thread and my first post attempted to generalize the reported conditions to try and see if there might be some conventional explanation - it seems to me there might, but we need to try & get a better handle on making some measurements in order to come to some conclusions

is my approach is unscientific? i hope not

do i claim to understand electricity? i don't believe so

my experiments to explore FE have centred around the Jensen UDT & variants of the magnetic parallel path system - no anomalies to report so far, but it hasn't stopped me planning to continue the experiments

secondly, as 'scientists' i hope we all look at data for evidence of currently unexplained patterns - when we find such evidence i hope we all want to start investigating in more detail

i found patterns in the Stiffler Scientific logo - i was interested and looked for more information - i reported some of my findings

was this unscientific?

my post contains an attempt to explore a report of anomalous electrical behaviour, some observations of an interesting pattern contained in the Stiffler logo, and a link to another OU site where Google found another instance of the name 'Ron Stiffler'

you can read my post - you can read Ron's response

i'm not going to tell people what to believe - about electricity - or anything else - just search for facts and draw conclusions from them.

isn't that the scientific way?

i've been really encouraged by this site - lots of good work being done by people researching physical anomalies and sharing results - lots of good work done by Stefan in setting up & maintaining the site!

good luck everyone with new & existing experiments in 2008!
sandy

Hi Sandy,

Wish you a new joyful year, Sorry if I offended you, but I certainly think that we all must respect Dr Stiffler here, as for sure he is here to help us, and a very honorable man. I thought that you think you understand electricity because you claimed about measuring power by using heat. But cold electricity or Radiant electricity doesn't heat things. It is rather cooling than heating.

Let's honor Dr Stiffler and support him.

Thanks   ;)

DrStiffler

Quote from: mramos on December 25, 2007, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: amigo on December 25, 2007, 09:49:29 PM
mramos,

logos are not silly, on the contrary they have quite a depth both archetypal and symbolical that most people ignore because they do not know or do not care (while they should both know and care because logos affect us on many levels). Whether doc.stiffler had noble (or not) intentions with this logo is not an issue, the fact is he made a logo that carried a purpose and a meaning, at least to him, to the point of becoming almost as a personal rune, and someone recognized that. :)

Not to drift off topic, but as nothing it happening here with the circuit.  As I stated, they mean nothing "to me".  :)  My kids have avatars all over the place (like the logos) and they mean a lot to them.  Like there kewl nic-names do.  I use my real name, maybe a lack of originality.   

I just like to get the work done, maybe when the work is done, I will make a cool logo ;)  I have a family crest from Spain as well (somewhere, would have to look for it).

I do still agree nul-point is right, except for analyzing the logo.  hahahaha.. 

I would love some someone to prove different though.  Would make a great Christmas present.

peace..
****I would love some someone to prove different though.  Would make a great Christmas present.

Maybe you just looked under the wrong tree :-)

www.drstiffler.com/drivers.asp

To stop all debate before it starts and gets out of hand, to prove me right or prove me wrong, you will need to use calorimetry, sorry, but you can not just wet your finger and touch a hot resistor and say yes or no.
All things are possible but some are impractical.

amigo

Quote from: RStiffler on December 26, 2007, 03:53:05 PM
To stop all debate before it starts and gets out of hand, to prove me right or prove me wrong, you will need to use calorimetry, sorry, but you can not just wet your finger and touch a hot resistor and say yes or no.

I think licking the finger would definitely work better in determining the wind direction, but even that's up for debate... :D

hoptoad

Quote from: amigo on December 26, 2007, 10:23:03 PM
Quote from: RStiffler on December 26, 2007, 03:53:05 PM
To stop all debate before it starts and gets out of hand, to prove me right or prove me wrong, you will need to use calorimetry, sorry, but you can not just wet your finger and touch a hot resistor and say yes or no.

I think licking the finger would definitely work better in determining the wind direction, but even that's up for debate... :D
KneeDeep.......It definitely depends on where you stick the aforementioned "finger",  after you've licked it......KneeDeep... ;D  :D
Amigo, glad to see you're still cheerfully hanging around this thread. You're doing well for a person who professes to being impatient!  LOL.
Just wondering how those 20 cores of yours are aiding your cause in finding the cause! ...... LOL.

Have you had any particular variations in circuit configurations which you would say are definitely putting out more usable light than the others for a given input? I'm not asking whether you have achieved O/U, but whether it has become obvious that one or two particular circuit configurations are definitely more efficient (conventionally speaking) than others?

For me the jury is still out, on whether RF excitation or DC is the most efficient way to illuminate LEDS. That's because, I have neither the correct measuring equipment, nor the funding for such equipment to make any real judgments on the actual circuit consumption and output. But apparent consumption figures derived from the cheap digital meters that I possess, indicate values in favour of RF excitation as the best method. ???

Currently I am running 50 LEDS hooked up as 25 AVR plugs in series, and the one thing that continually confuses me, is that I get a greater light output when one end of the chain is open, than I do, when I connect each end of the LED chain to each of the secondary output leads in a closed loop load condition.

Ordinarily I'd put this down to de-tuning due to impedance mismatch, but even when I connect a 10 meg variable pot in series with one lead of the secondary, it will not make a scrap of difference to tuning capability. The LEDS are always brighter when one leg of the secondary is not connected to the LED chain ???

As usual, I have more questions than answers....sorry... KneeDeep
Cheers all.

fritz

Quote from: RStiffler on December 26, 2007, 03:53:05 PM

****I would love some someone to prove different though.  Would make a great Christmas present.

Maybe you just looked under the wrong tree :-)

www.drstiffler.com/drivers.asp

To stop all debate before it starts and gets out of hand, to prove me right or prove me wrong, you will need to use calorimetry, sorry, but you can not just wet your finger and touch a hot resistor and say yes or no.

"The current Stiffler Driver able to produce significant excess Heat in a 1K ohm carbon resistor.
Heat gains in excess 500% while the driver transistor runs cool."

The fact that the driver transistor runs cool proves that its operated in a way
where there is no significant loss.....- whats essential for a OU setup.
Both facts in one sentence is mixing apples with pears and suggests that
the temperature difference between driver transistor and output
resistor has something to do with COP.
Maybe this was not your intention - just to clarify.

500% excess would mean that the temperature difference of the resistor
heated by the output is 5 times higher as if the resistor is heated by the
input power of the device.
Operating the load resistor as reference with the same power (u x i)
from a dc power supply should give 1/5 of the temperatur difference if
the "situation", cooling, ambient temperature is identical.
If the resistor has a temperature of 70 deg Celsius - Ambient 20,
the difference is 50. In this case there should be 30 deg C on
the reference setup operated with dc power to prove 500%.

congratulations !