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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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Gustav22

Quote from: RStiffler on April 05, 2008, 09:59:13 AM
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The SEC Exciter that I have established as standard and used in my last video on HHO is about as wide banded as you will get. It produces very high energy output about every 5MHz from 4.6-356MHz and less useful ones much higher. Granted the low end is left out, but SEC does not work down here (unless someone has done it).

@RStiffler
Hi Doc, I wonder whether it is probable that you don't get proper spikes below 4.6 MHz because you always build such "miniature units"  ;D
Would it not just take MORE MASS to be able to get powerful oscillation at lower frequencies aka subharmonics?  With need for even more mass, the lower you look. But might this not be where the energy really hides (in oscillating mass, I mean)?

After all you yourself wrote
Quote from: RStiffler on February 22, 2008, 11:33:07 AM
..... As anyone can easily see, there is a considerable increase in spectral energy with the larger tube.

@fritz
Quote from: fritz on April 05, 2008, 08:51:38 AM
....So we are talking about 2 _DIFFERENT_ diodes
acting as pump-charged chaos amps operated by the
same "jamming" voltage. ....
Hi fritz, I don't understand, but would like to.
So if you ever find time to explain this a bit more in detail and for the layman, I would appreciate it very much.
money for rope

fritz

Quote from: RStiffler on April 05, 2008, 09:14:10 AM

*transient recorder and matlab would make more sense = gives
You have mentioned this before and I think I indicated (seriously) that we would be very grateful if you could do this, is this possible and would you??

Thank you for the valuable and inline with direction post.

I?m still a novice matlab user - and the only transient thing
I could use so far is my 4x100MHz Scope with a COM module
(I?m still looking for). But I?ll let you know when I?m capable of that.

Good Luck for your further research - I have to do some stupid motion
control in the next 2 wks -then there will be time to do the interesting stuff.

rgds.

alan

What is wrong with my idea of putting a generator to the motor to convert the event to regular current, since no-one is responding to my comment?

fritz

Quote from: Gustav22 on April 05, 2008, 10:47:17 AM


@fritz
Quote from: fritz on April 05, 2008, 08:51:38 AM
....So we are talking about 2 _DIFFERENT_ diodes
acting as pump-charged chaos amps operated by the
same "jamming" voltage. ....
Hi fritz, I don't understand, but would like to.
So if you ever find time to explain this a bit more in detail and for the layman, I would appreciate it very much.

If we at first sight ignore the "speed" of the diode (internal intrinsinc resistance and
charge of the junction(fwd)), the diode operates as varicap if operated in reverse.
The capacitance is a function of the reverse voltage - more voltage - less capacity.
If you charge a plate capacitor with charge Q, voltage U and capacity C (Q=C*U) -
and then increase the capacity (by adusting the plates closer) - the charge inside
stays the same and the voltage goes up. Same principle is used to build amplifiers
with low noise.
In this case this effect combines with the "slow" diode - there is some charge needed
to establish the "blocking(remove fwd charge)" or "non-blocking(charge fwd)" operation of the diode - the capacity change
in this operating point is quite high (but lots of leakage).
Due to the fact that we have from manufacturing point of view no "identical" diodes,
the effects in both diodes differ, especially if operated at high frequencies - and gives
different voltage at the other ends - you can consume some power there.
Initially, the diodes charge against ambient potential(ground) until they reach the level
where the neon starts to lighten (or the threshold voltage of leds is reached).
The coil in series matches the impedance of the plug.

Basically the state of both diodes gets out of sync/differs due to the stressy excitation,
this is why we get 2 different voltages (charges) at the other end.
(this is where we mentioned the delay line issue for the simulation which gives similar
but maybe too simple effect -> better with multiple delay lines - but ..).

Anyway - reality is big - and this is only some tiny piece of what people think that
happens inside diodes - but explains
what I?ve assumed - would be cool to have some tool to simulate whats happening in
the diode.

rgds.


fritz

Ups, sorry,

Q=C*U 

C>>  U<<; voltage drops if you increase capacity - but in combination with
the delay, charge, speed of the diode this might do similar. (rectifying+pumping)
rgds.