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Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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Qwert


Omnibus

Unfortunately, this isn't an educational forum. People who wish to discuss things here are presumed to be familiar with the fundamentals. Not that I don't want, I simply don't have the time to carry out education here. Recently, especially unprepared to discuss this particular stuff was @shrggedatlas. @Mr.Entropy showed some sparks of understanding, but he's still way off as is the last participant @tinu. It's good to make efforts to understand things but this should be done with less arrogance and self-righteousness. When you're told you're wrong and should think before posting you should really do so and not continue to push your confusion more and more. My analysis isn't something accidental and shallow remarks such as the recent ones have been rejected long ago.

Omnibus

Quote from: tinu on November 10, 2007, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on November 08, 2007, 09:46:56 PM
Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 08, 2007, 09:45:10 PM
@ Omnibus:

To help answer Shrugged Atlas's question, would this be a fair description for where the exta energy in the SMOT goes?  As I see it...if you have a steel ball at x height and the SMOT makes it rise to X+whatever, then the potential energy of the ball has been raised and it is stored in the ball.  In other words, a one pound weight 1 foot off the ground has more potential energy than a one pound ball 6" off the ground.  Correct?  I think this is where the SMOT shows OU.

I don't really know so I am just putting this out there.  The fact that the engineering problem has not been solved, as Shrugged says, to close the loop does not preclude the extra potential energy imparted to the sphere by the SMOT in my mind.

Bill
That's correct.

That?s wrong.
See above posts.
Stop persisting with your confusion. That's arrogant.

Omnibus

Quote from: Qwert on November 10, 2007, 11:39:34 AM
Hallo to All:
Somehow, nobody mentions here Troy Reed and his "Surge" invention:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt5z8L4LBJE
and his patent:
http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO9010337&F=0&QPN=WO9010337#

The problem with these constructions is that they have external power supply and therefore it isn't at all straightforward to claim they produce more energy than energy put in. Before all these are accepted constructions such as that of @xpenzif must be verified as real perpetuum mobile's. Therefore, the focus must be on @xpenzif and similar motors rather than on motors which may seem more practical. That said, I have to remind you that violation of CoE has already been proven beyond doubt and that's not what is sougt for now. What the focus should be now is how to produce excess energy continuously without any energy input whatsoever.

Qwert

Quote from: Omnibus on November 10, 2007, 11:48:47 AM
Quote from: Qwert on November 10, 2007, 11:39:34 AM
Hallo to All:
Somehow, nobody mentions here Troy Reed and his "Surge" invention:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt5z8L4LBJE
and his patent:
http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO9010337&F=0&QPN=WO9010337#

The problem with these constructions is that they have external power supply and therefore it isn't at all straightforward to claim they produce more energy than energy put in. Before all these are accepted constructions such as that of @xpenzif must be verified as real perpetuum mobile's. Therefore, the focus must be on @xpenzif and similar motors rather than on motors which may seem more practical. That said, I have to remind you that violation of CoE has already been proven beyond doubt and that's not what is sougt for now. What the focus should be now is how to produce excess energy continuously without any energy input whatsoever.
To my knowledge the "Surge" does not have any external power supply. Well, maybe only a starter. By the way, You must be very fast guy, since You could find my post, check the links and write the reply within ten minutes from mine.