Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Pirate88179]

Bruce:

Very interesting thought experiment.  Possibly, this is what he did, or something similar, and when the energy reached a certain point, it was bled off of the circuit and the cycle continued.

Great thinking.

Bill

[Master_T]

@All I've been following this thread for some time and have made several NS coils with varied success. 

Anyway I've been thinking of trying a vibrating buzzer type make-and-break switch for the NS coil instead of using the wheel (like the old EM bells). I think someone earlier here also mentioned other ways of achieving the oscillations in Stubblefields time era in response to the (most likely faked illustration posted some days ago). One could do it of course with modern timer circuits as Lidmotor pointed out.

Here's an illustration of my primitive setup though. I'm sure you guys can come up with a better design for this. 

Lid also pointed out that this would indeed is very much like an old FORD model T spark coil after which I look it up.

Here's an extract from the wiki article on the spark coil:

"In order to provide high voltage for the spark from the low voltage batteries, a "tickler" was used, which was essentially a larger version of the once widespread electric buzzer. With this apparatus, the direct current passes through an electromagnetic coil which pulls open a pair of contact points, interrupting the current; the magnetic field collapses, the spring-loaded points close again, the circuit is reestablished, and the cycle repeats rapidly. The rapidly collapsing magnetic field, however, induces a high voltage across the coil which can only relieve itself by arcing across the contact points..." "...the ignition system this becomes the source of the high voltage to operate the spark plugs. In this mode of operation, the coil would "buzz" continuously, producing a constant train of sparks."  ----  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_system   ----

To add to the illustration: One might also put tuners to control the positions of the spring and the other connector plate, so as to fully be able to control the performance with optimal tuning capabilities. And to add proper components to the secondary if higher voltage were to be attained, all though I'm not that sure that will happen, but who knows.

[Master_T]

@ Bruce, Yes with the secondary feeding back I can easilly see my set up getting up to spark potential if properly tuned (I think). Maybe it would be better just to use iron instead of a magnet on a vertical spring and only one of the pairs of copper-iron for the buzzing and the sec for feedback to them trough an AV plug maybe, and if it were to make any sense, to use the remaining wires for load, but maybe not. (referring to writings of the coils operations)

The core might be exited though and one could use an avromenko plug to draw out some juice from it maybe between two or more NS coils if not the ground would completely eat up this energy, where by one must completely insultate the cores from the ground and prims. 

One could put in another secondary for further extraction if it has all this potential, or simply try and extract excess energy with capacitors as it gets to higher levels (if).

Also I really think these coils were ment to be connected together over some minor distace underground in order to "pick up" or direct into them telluric currents in the ground.

The question is only: How?

Master T

[Master_T]

@Bruce 

[Bruce_TPU]

@ Bruce, Yes with the secondary feeding back I can easilly see my set up getting up to spark potential if properly tuned (I think). Maybe it would be better just to use iron instead of a magnet on a vertical spring and only one of the pairs of copper-iron for the buzzing and the sec for feedback to them trough an AV plug maybe, and if it were to make any sense, to use the remaining wires for load, but maybe not. (referring to writings of the coils operations)

The core might be exited though and one could use an avromenko plug to draw out some juice from it maybe between two or more NS coils if not the ground would completely eat up this energy, where by one must completely insultate the cores from the ground and prims. 

One could put in another secondary for further extraction if it has all this potential, or simply try and extract excess energy with capacitors as it gets to higher levels (if).

Also I really think these coils were ment to be connected together over some minor distace underground in order to "pick up" or direct into them telluric currents in the ground.

The question is only: How?

Master T

How on the connection?  Could be the copper lead from one to the iron lead of the second.  Then the copper lead of the second to the iron lead of the first.  This should work if I recall my own experiments near the start of this thread.

@ ALL
It is the middle of the night and I just awoke.  I am confident that this "feedback" is the answer!! 

If the two leads that Lasersaber is using has his make and break, and if the two leads attached to his LED, were now connected to the opposite end leads from the make and break, then this ADDITIONAL current produced via magnetic induction onto the Secondary is now ADDED to the current in the primary and it too will be now at the mercy of a "make and break".  Perhaps go to a CAPACITOR and then to the primary?  BUT, this additional current from the secondary, should almost DOUBLE the strength of the secondary, just on that first pass!!  There should be this doubling effect, and then a means to use a capacitor or a second battery to take "OFF" this current.

Cheers,

Bruce