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Overunity Machines Forum



Are there any running magnet motors?

Started by laserman, October 25, 2007, 08:39:03 PM

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NobleWolf

Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 28, 2007, 06:36:04 PM
Btw, do you know how much energy is required to magnetise a neo magnet? I have no data on that.

check this, it may help...

http://www.consult-g2.com/course/chapter5/chapter.html

hansvonlieven

G'day all,

Thanks for the link NobleWolf, this is helpful though not specific enough for what I have in mind. I'll do a bit more ferreting :-)

@klicUK

Exactly my point. There are people here that claim they have conclusively proven OU because of that silly SMOT. No-one has pushed the steel ball into the gate often enough to come anywhere close to the amount of energy it took to magnetise the material. To speak of Overunity being conclusively proven under such circumstances is an emotional wishful thinking type statement, not science.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Omnibus

Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 29, 2007, 04:34:29 AM
G'day all,

Thanks for the link NobleWolf, this is helpful though not specific enough for what I have in mind. I'll do a bit more ferreting :-)

@klicUK

Exactly my point. There are people here that claim they have conclusively proven OU because of that silly SMOT. No-one has pushed the steel ball into the gate often enough to come anywhere close to the amount of energy it took to magnetise the material. To speak of Overunity being conclusively proven under such circumstances is an emotional wishful thinking type statement, not science.

Hans von Lieven
This is, of course, nonsense. That CoE can be violated ha been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. What remains now is to utilize it in a working motor which is only an engineering problem, no matter how daunting. Recently, very promising proposals are emerging and the practical solution, reproducible by independent parties is just around the corner.

laserman

Thank you everyone for their insight.  What I gather is that it hasn't been done yet...so all that means   is... I am not a complete failure... i just haven't figured it out yet.  When one says that it cant be done i read into that statement..."jumbo jets will never fly" or "there is no such thing as alien spacecraft" or as far as that goes..."there is no God".  When I said magnet motor, I was probably really meaning a perpetual momentum toy that will sit on my desk and spin or twirl for my own amusement. Over unity as i understand is more out than put in...I dont care about the billions of dollars spent on resources or in machinery to make a ND magnet, IMHO if one puts those data points into the equation...one will NEVER achieve over unity.  IF you read this response please check it again as i will post my perendev braking system i developed here as soon as i can figure out how to post pics here.  I appreciate everone's comments except for maby borg's which was kind of smartass but i may have liked his the most because he is most like me.

Omnibus

Quote from: laserman on October 29, 2007, 04:01:41 PM
Thank you everyone for their insight.  What I gather is that it hasn't been done yet...so all that means   is... I am not a complete failure... i just haven't figured it out yet.  When one says that it cant be done i read into that statement..."jumbo jets will never fly" or "there is no such thing as alien spacecraft" or as far as that goes..."there is no God".  When I said magnet motor, I was probably really meaning a perpetual momentum toy that will sit on my desk and spin or twirl for my own amusement. Over unity as i understand is more out than put in...I dont care about the billions of dollars spent on resources or in machinery to make a ND magnet, IMHO if one puts those data points into the equation...one will NEVER achieve over unity.  IF you read this response please check it again as i will post my perendev braking system i developed here as soon as i can figure out how to post pics here.  I appreciate everone's comments except for maby borg's which was kind of smartass but i may have liked his the most because he is most like me.
Overunity is indeed more out than put in and this has already been achieved beyond a shadow of a doubt. What we're talking about here is obtainment of the 'out' at the expense of nothing 'in'. This is what these 'perpetuum mobile' motors are. Good luck with your project. Wouldn't it be possible to post a video istead of pics?