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Single Wire Tests

Started by duff, October 31, 2007, 03:42:00 AM

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Bruce_TPU

#110
January 20, 2008, 09:01:52 PM
Quote from: Rosphere on January 20, 2008, 10:00:29 AM
We assume that the two currents do not cancel each other out because we see the bulbs (LEDs) glowing, but what of the magnetic fields?

If the current is flowing both ways in the test wire, what of the magnetic fields; do we also have two opposing magnetic fields around the test wire or do they cancel each other out?



Hi Mike,

When I tested the "same signal, each opposing, two different sources, same wire", using a two frequency gen's, back in my thread, I used a magnet to test for a magnetic field.  It was huge, compared to one signal.  I posted all about it, but no one followed up on it.

Also, Thaelin, did similar experiments and saw 150 volt spikes, and ran a small motor using the same technique.  Very astounding stuff. 

@ All

I think anyone serious about working on the TPU should consider investing in an accurate gauss meter.  IMHO.  It would assist in so many ways, testing for field cancellation, strong magnetic fields, different magnetic field strengths associated with different frequencies (my theory.).

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

eldarion

#111
January 21, 2008, 01:21:58 AM
Hi Bruce,

Can you please post a link to your ""same signal, each opposing, two different sources, same wire", using a two frequency gen's" experiment post?  I do not recall ever seeing that one, and it sounds interesting.  Maybe for some reason others didn't see it either and therefore it was overlooked?

Thanks! ;D

Eldarion
"The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."
-- Thomas Paine

Bruce_TPU

#112
January 21, 2008, 12:08:49 PM
Quote from: eldarion on January 21, 2008, 01:21:58 AM
Hi Bruce,

Can you please post a link to your ""same signal, each opposing, two different sources, same wire", using a two frequency gen's" experiment post?  I do not recall ever seeing that one, and it sounds interesting.  Maybe for some reason others didn't see it either and therefore it was overlooked?

Thanks! ;D

Eldarion

Hi Eldarion,

This is the first post I made talking about same signals:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2300.msg35958.html#msg35958

My Quote from BEP here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2300.msg36406.html#msg36406

Thaelin's Information here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2300.msg36492.html#msg36492

Another post about same signals here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2300.msg36894.html#msg36894
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2300.msg36917.html#msg36917

My experiment, here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2300.msg36995.html#msg36995
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

eldarion

#113
January 21, 2008, 12:23:19 PM
Thanks Bruce!

I think I'll go ahead and try it out--at least I can provide a confirmation of something unusual, or maybe even some more detail with my 500MHz  scope. ;)

Eldarion
"The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."
-- Thomas Paine

hansvonlieven

#114
January 21, 2008, 03:17:18 PM
G'day all,

Perhaps a little off the subject, but on reading your experiments I had an idea which I think is worth following up.

Instead of using a single wire if you used two electrodes immersed in an electrolyte instead you might be able to observe phenomena that could give you a clearer idea what you are dealing with. What would happen here? Would you get oxygen and hydrogen bubbles on BOTH electrodes or what? What happens if you pulse the current and so forth.

I will be trying this as soon as I have a chance.

What do you think?

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx
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