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Single Wire Tests

Started by duff, October 31, 2007, 03:42:00 AM

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jacob

Quote from: kames on November 04, 2007, 06:35:39 PM

Hi Jacob,

Talking about the current stopping before it reaches the end of the wire is not a secret at all. Good luck to implement it. It is not the only and the major condition Tesla was talking about. Tao, in my opinion, as far from the truth as anybody else. Believe it or not I have read and reading every single post in this forum and aware of every single thought or attachment in this forum.

Kames.


Kames,

If you read those posts, and I have no reason to doubt that you really did, then you have to read them again. Because stopping the current flow before it reaches the end is not what the "secret" was about. 

Of course it's ok to doubt that Tao is far off, but that is exactly where it will lead you: far off. Because his theory is extremely close to reality. It's just that it is missing a vital ingredient. As far as I can remember, SM only mentionned twice that someone was right on, and the first time he used this expression is when Tao explained his theory.

And you can also hold the belief that everybody else is "far off", but I assure you that  some people on this forum know very well how the TPU operates, and how to build one.

The fact that you are experimenting with a single wire to find out what the kick is about is great. That is indeed the starting point. However, there are 2 problems with your experiments. First, the kick happens much to quickly for the kind of setup you have. Secondly, the kick has already been recorded on scope and published on this site in a pdf document. Incredibly enough, it went totally unnoticed.

I told you: data mining is the way to go. All the answers are here already. Along with some far off theories...

Regards,

Jacob

Grumpy

Quote from: kames on November 05, 2007, 08:49:38 PM
In that book it is related that Tesla states that you can have all kinds of electrons flowing through a wire traveling in different directions relating only to their potential power source. He even said that you could have different electron flows through a single wire completely separate from each other. I tried it and he is right!

When you electrostatically induce a current in a wire, it can flow in both directions away from the middle of the wire.  This was first analyzed in long telegraph lines by J. J. Carty and William Thomson (Lord Kelvin) and shown to be an ES phenomenon and not EM.  This effect also is attributed to unusual propagation delays.  This led to development of the "twisted pair" to eliminate the ES problem.  So, twisted pair wire for a TPU probably doesn't work well.

By the way, Dolbear's electrostatic telephone is pretty cool and worth a look.


Quote from: jacob on November 06, 2007, 09:25:44 AM
If you read those posts, and I have no reason to doubt that you really did, then you have to read them again. Because stopping the current flow before it reaches the end is not what the "secret" was about. 

Tao has mentioned that he believes the reference by SM to the "secret" was the reference to "capacitor discharge" rather than stopping current.

Quote from: jacob on November 06, 2007, 09:25:44 AM
And you can also hold the belief that everybody else is "far off", but I assure you that  some people on this forum know very well how the TPU operates, and how to build one.

How very intuitive of you, Jacob.

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

jacob

Quote from: Grumpy on November 06, 2007, 09:44:38 AM

Tao has mentioned that he believes the reference by SM to the "secret" was the reference to "capacitor discharge" rather than stopping current.


Yes, that's more like it.

Jacob

Grumpy

The "capacitor discharge" is also correlated to SM's references to "shock waves", faster than light electrons, etc.

I beleive SM is alluding to the very interesting "thing" that screams down the wire ahead of electromagnetic energy.  I think somone once referred to this "thing" as a "true electric current".
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

kames

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