HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT

[wattsup]

@MAC

Please tell me how you know the yellow caps are .22nf 1500v. I have asked this question on the board so many times and no one was able to answer. I asked @z_p_e before he left the board but he never gave any specific values. I even spent many times in electronics shops to see if I could find a cap looking like those yellow ones and only see them on speaker crossovers, but not that high voltage.

But to charge the capacitor you need some power from somewhere and you need some inductors to load the charge into the caps. The two center coils could provide the inductance to charge the yellow caps but I do not think you could get enough of a charge through them. You could do it if the caps where in parallel or series to the secondaries, pulse the secondaries, charge the cap and discharge the caps to the primary.

The two center toroids are off the shelf type because you can see the original mounting L-brackets are still used to secure them as inversed. I have looked at many components, door bells, etc., to see if there is anything like it and have not seen anything. I have even printed a photo of the toroids to show shop owners and no one can tell me where they came from.

Without electronics like transistors. The LTPU was making 800+ volts of at least 1 amp to light the bulbs. How is he getting that type of amperage? And how can you do switching at that power level and not make noise if it is not electronics? Could maybe be done with some solid state relays which operate silently. Do solid state relays generate an internal spark when they contact?

I think you are on the right track for the SM TPU's. But let's not make confusions since Otto and Roberto are building their own designs, maybe taking some ideas from the SM design, maybe not, but surely always inspired by them. But saying to guys to stop this and that will not happen, but hopefully some newer minds and builders can get some of your questions answered as they do deserve a closer look.

[MACEDONIA CD]

HI  AND WELCOME HERE I MAY  SMALL PLACE  HERE

YOU ASK WAY SOME PEPLE HERE IS POINTED HER   ANSFER IS  I THING IS GOOD MAN  BUT IS NOT MEAN IS  ONLY THEN IS GOOD PEOPLE   AND IS THERE  ANTHER MAN HER IS GOOD  I THING  FOR  @WATTS
OKYOU ASK  WAY I KNOW IS 0,22nf 1600  or 2000 volts caps  i know  and i have  here whit me  is the same cap here
ather  the biger  tpu  if you look clouse there  there is  solid dtructure  like  two black ring up  and  down  two black ring like  armature  of some  core  or blakc iron <<
way  two cap big  you have  two separated tesla primary coil <<aramature  up is two down is two  you know  tesla primary coli for what is mean for what is there  <<is  for created strong and short time periode  strong magnet  fild  just  very short time   way short time  <<<hmm simple  explane   if you have small per,mag and move  first slow  to wire   lets sa 12inc  you need  let say 1 second to move this 12 inch long wier  just 1 sec of time   but IF YO MOVE  TO FAST  IN THE SAME LONG WIRE 12 INC  .. LET SAY 0,00005 JUST SECOND   IN THE SAME WIRE  IMAGEN WHAT OF POWER IS THERE   >> this i teel you   what of elktromagnet  be fast   like this  speed    whitout eny kind elktronics hmm <<TESLA PRIMARY COIL >>. how is fork  tesla primary coil  the cap is charge one second  whit lets say one ampers  and  this  one ampers  now whill be discharge  to thi simple coil  tesla   <<LOOK HERE  FIRST  TIME  OF IMPULS OF ELTROMAGNET FILD BE TO SHORT   LIKE  YOU MOVE THIS ELKTROMAGNET WHIT VERY HIGH SPEED  TO  LET SAY 12INC   WIRE IAMGEN THIS  BUT    YOU SAY IS VERY SMALL  ONE AMPS  NO  IS NOT ONE  WHEN IS DISCHARGE THERE THAT  CAP   WHIT DISCARGE  THE AMPS  IS NOT ONE AMPS THER  IS  8 OR MORE AMPS  JUST   IN 0,00005 SECOND OF TIME PERIOD  IMAGEN   8 ampers strong magnet fild whit whit very fast speed
NOW  I WHIIL BACK  IN ATHER  SOME THINGS   I POINT THIS  THE TESLA COIL IS FOR ONE  REOSONE   THERE  YOU NOT COLECT ENY ENRGY OF TESLA COIL   <<I TELL YOU  THIS COIL IS NOT FOR PRODUCED OR TRANSFORM THIS IN ENRGY OF 8 AMPS FOR OUT LOADS
I YOU THING IN THAT WAY  YOU ARE IN THE WRONG WAY   IF YOU THING THAT  IF TESLA COIL IS COURCE COIL  FOR COLECTOR COIL  YOU HAVE NEVER BE ABLE TO  CATCH  MORE ENERGY THEN INPUT
NOW I TELL YOU YOU MAST START THING IN ATHERE WAY
IF I  WHILL REMEBER THE WORDS OF SM  WHEN IS TELL  AND EXPLANE FOR BIG  TPU
HE SAID FIRST  ONE  FREKFEFENCY  START  THEN  SECOND FREKFENCY IS START
HMMM WAY 2 FREK  BUT  IS REALY IS TIS A FREKFEFENSY OR SOME GENERATOR HMM 
I SAID NO  AND THEN  THIS 2  COME CLOUSE LIKE ONE   THEN THIS  2 CREATED  KICK <<MAGNET >.IN  I SAID  NOW
,,MAGNET FORCE  KICK  IN ONE DIRECTION>
BUT FOR WHAT PURPOSE IS THIS  KICK  AND FAST   MAST BE  IF  WE ARE NOT YUSED FOR  COLECT OUT LOAD ENERGY .......
THIS TWO  FREK  OR NOT FRE .. IS TO MADE SOMTHING ELSE <<I KNOW THE ANSFER >>
IWHILL MADE  ONE SMALL LIKE TPU  LIKE SM  BUT  FOR NOW I DONT  TELL YOU  FPR WHAT PURPSE IS NEED THIS  TWO  FRE..
I THING I HAVE TELL YOU VERY INTERSTHING AND GOOD THINGS TO STRT WHIT SOME REAL THINGS
<<,REMEMBER THIS  TESLA COLI IS NOT FOR  ENY KIND OF ENERGY  OF TO COLECT FROM HIM  THIS IS FOR ATHER PORPOSE THERE IN THE SM TPU
ANTEHR DAY I WHILL EXPLANE WAY  SM SAID  HIS DIVICE S  I HAVE  <<DC voltage whit AC>>
I KNOW   YOU ARE SAYING MAST BE A TUBE  THERE   BUT  IS NOT TUBE   
INTERSTING DIVICES  DC WHIT AC
I TELL YOUU ALL TO LOOK AGAIN VIDEOS  OF SM CAREFULL  AND LISTEN CAREFULL WHAT IS SAYIN SM
NOW  IM BUILD MY  TPU   SOON WHILL BE  MADE   AND I HOPE  TO AMKE  THIS  WHITOUT ENY ERROR 
THEN I WHILL SEND VIDEO TO SEE  WHAT I HAVE MADE  THERE IN THE VIDEO  ALL WHILL BE REAL  <<WHITOT  ENY OF KIND OF JOKE >>ONLY REAL  AND REAL RMS OUT POWEER

S.M YOU  ARE GREATED MAN   WHIT SIMPLE  THINGS WHIT SIMPLE PARTS  YOU GET  HALF  PERPETUMOBILE
AND ATHERE  I FORGOT  TPU  OF SM HAS  TIME LIMITED  SOURCE ENRGY   BUT IS  TO LONG TIME LIMITED IS GOOD TO YOUSED THIS  LONG LIMITED TIME
HELOOO   Mr .. <<MANNIX>> LET SAY SOMTHING NOW 

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Mac CD, 

Great to hear you're sure this time,  I'll be waiting for that video. 

[wattsup]

@Chef and other @Tubers

There are no tubes, none, nill, in the LTPU or any other TPU. Final answer. You may be too young to have known tubes. My dad was a TV technician in the hey day of tubes. If you ever touch a tube, you will know how f*&?in hot they get. You cannot put a tube in that black box of the LTPU because it would have smoked the plastic in 2 minutes flat. Come on guys, get off the tube already. SM used this as an analogy, small power makes big power, like so many other analogies. Actually, the TPU itself is one big tube. The only direct and present day relationship between SM and a tube is..... YouTube. lol

@all

If what Mac is saying is sinking in, this touches on a post I made a little while ago showing the bailing wire ring armature. I had put a primary coil on each end of the armature to magnetize it, but I think what Mac is saying is no, the caps are discharged directly into the wire armature. Never thought of that. This would shoot out the magnetism at each pulse. This would  also explain why the LTPU would get a little warm to the touch. The iron is heating up, not any of the wires. So if you blast the bailing wire with cap discharges, you should be able to now use the wound vertical collectors to catch some output. This would also stand firm if the design required a gradual power increase after start up. Now collecting energy via the TWO collectors (1/2 circle each), each half would then go to the two black caps in series as a regulator.  The shorter vertical coils on the left and right of the zero point, which I called the primaries could be the feedback coils. I need to test this cap discharge into a bailing wire armature. Also, with two collectors and a pulsing armature, some of the armature discharges would reach the other collector in reverse polarity and this mixing could create the AC component.

[plengo]

I think the ideia this is related to Tesla coils is corroborated by the fact that in one of the videos of SM (sorry ,I dont know which one and where in the video but it is there) SM short some wires coming from the TPU and there you see the EXACTLY same effect as an "Jacob Latter" effect very commonly know by Tesla Coil Fans.

It cought my attention by the strange thought that I had: wow, his device is producing enough energy as a Tesla coil and the same effects?

So, for those that have the videos watch it again and again until you see this moment. SM is in the front of the table holding two wires, he touches the wires and boom, there it goes the electric flame up like a fire. Table with device is on the back and the watchers (potential buyers) were on the left further from him closest to the end left of the glass table. That's so far I remember by memory. I will try to find the spot on which video and post it here.

Good ideias MACEDONIA.

Fausto.