Meyer's Resonant Charging Circuit Analysed

[Amateur-Scientist]

Can anyone explain to me the purpose and action of this bifilar winding?

Yes, usually two lengths of wire are wound in parallel on the transformer core. Since the current flowing in a one wire creates a magnetic field, it is multiplied by the second wire next to the first. Tesla patented a bifilar coil to increase the capacitace of his circuits and eliminate the need for capacitors.

[Farrah Day]

Hi AS

This area is covered on the other thread, 'Meyer's WFC concept analysed'. However, firstly Meyer on numerous occasions states that the water used in his WFC is tap, rain or river water... not pure water.  So forget about the dielectric properties of water.  Pure water, yes, does have a very high dielectric constant, but pure water does not stay pure for very long. Gases in the air - particularly oxygen - amongst other things disolve readily in water.  Not only that, if this was the case you would have to go to the expense of producing this pure water and somehow trying to keep it pure until you needed it. No doubt you would be using fossil fuels to produce the pure water. No, it simply would not be cost-effective and in reality defeats the whole object of the exercise.  On more than one Meyer's videos he states that he is just using tap water! See Dune Buggy video.

In Meyers circuit with the blocking diode, voltage pulses across the capacitor can only be double that of the supply voltage so this would mean the transformer coupling the pulse circuit to the WFC would have to initially step up the voltage significantly.

Re: bifilar winding. I need to look into this as I'm unsure as to what purpose it serves in Meyers circuit and don't really understand your explanation. What role are you saying that this bifilar coil actually plays in the circuit... or don't you know?? 

That aside, the most obvious use for a bifilar winding would be to produce a wire wound resistor that had no inductive reactance to ac. When connected correctly the magnetic fluxes created by the BEMFs would cancel each other out producing no reactance and leaving just the resistance of the wire to oppose current.

Farrah Day

[Esotericman]

Seems to me that the term "capacitor" is erroneous.  I mean, clearly it resembles one in form, but in theory, it simply can't be.  In order to split the molecule an electron must be added, liberating one Hydro atom, then en electron must be removed, liberating the other Hydro atom.  Just like in every electrolysis process, the "capacitor" therefore must necessarily leak.  Actually that is the only requirement!  And since, as you say, a stored charge would negate the pulsed input, it should therefore work only as efficiently as running straight DC- which clearly, it does not.  The pulsed electron bombardment clearly improves the effect.
Just goes to show, sometimes brute force isn't the only way.

[Esotericman]

Wow didn't see that there was more discussion to this!  I'm a tad new to this forum type :p 
As to the actual disassociation process, I like to describe it as "bouncing" the molecule.  Granted, it is a simplistic view, but it seems to follow.  If you consider the covalent bond to be elastic, then when it is flexed (or strained), it will "bounce" back past it stable point, and oscillate about that point with a given frequency (albeit, an incredibly tiny frequency).  By pulsing the current as some multiple of this frequency (resonance), you increase the magnitude of the "bounce" exponentially until it breaks.  Conventional electrolysis, by applying constant unidirectional current would dampen the bounce, but move the center of oscillation, until the repulsive force between the hydrogen atoms are sufficient to "pop" the oxygen off.

I dunno- maybe it's beating a dead horse, but it makes sense to me and I haven't seen it described before

[Amateur-Scientist]

Pure water, yes, does have a very high dielectric constant, but pure water does not stay pure for very long. Gases in the air - particularly oxygen - amongst other things disolve in readily in water.  Not only that, if this was the case you would have to go to the expense of producing this pure water and somehow trying to keep it pure until you needed it.

Reverse osmosis can get pure water. In the patent, Meyers stated the dissolved gasses are released as the water is disassociated. The patent talks about small current flow, so the water needs to be deionized, otherwise the water will be a conductor a not a dielectric and he would have an electrolysis system (passing a current through an ionic substance dissolved in the water.)

In Meyers circuit with the blocking diode, voltage pulses across the capacitor can only be double that of the supply voltage so this would mean the transformer coupling the pulse circuit to the WFC would have to initially step up the voltage significantly.

The patent said the seconday was at 1,000 volts. The circuit would step it to 2,000 volts.

Re: bifilar winding. I need to look into this as I'm unsure as to what purpose it serves in Meyers circuit and don't really understand your explanation. What role are you saying that this bifilar coil actually plays in the circuit... or don't you know??

That aside, the most obvious use for a bifilar winding would be to produce a wire wound resistor that had no inductive reactance to ac. When connected correctly the magnetic fluxes created by the BEMFs would cancel each other out producing no reactance and leaving just the resistance of the wire to oppose current.

Bifilar winding are comonly used in toriod transformers. This might help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar