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Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.

Started by EMdevices, November 12, 2007, 11:49:58 PM

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Bruce_TPU

@ Samankl
A very interesting post.  If you can tweak your frequency up to about 7.8 Hz for me and try that, also 7.3, with the same set up and see if the times are the same.  It does indeed like a load.  Are your LED's in series, parallel or both?

Also, looking at EM's original circuit, the bottom green wire going to the transistor.  Do you have that going to your collector or emitter?  Mine goes to my emitter.  It is the only way it will work for my circuit.

Holiday Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

sanmankl

Quote from: btentzer on November 25, 2007, 12:15:36 PM
@ Samankl
A very interesting post.  If you can tweak your frequency up to about 7.8 Hz for me and try that, also 7.3, with the same set up and see if the times are the same.  It does indeed like a load.  Are your LED's in series, parallel or both?

Also, looking at EM's original circuit, the bottom green wire going to the transistor.  Do you have that going to your collector or emitter?  Mine goes to my emitter.  It is the only way it will work for my circuit.

Holiday Cheers,
Bruce

@Bruce,

I have tweaked my frequency to 7.8 and then to 7.5 with my copper wire coil. 7.5 seemed to work better. Difference of about 3 minutes. LEDs are in parallel.
My LED positive goes to the 15T wire and the other end goes to gnd. The bottom green wire that goes to my Transistor collector. If yours goes to the emitter, then what have you hook up to your collector?

What transistor are you using? I'm using BC548 and the pin-outs are CBE (looking at the transistor, pin pointing downwards with the marking facing you). The 2N3904 are EBC (same orientation).

Funny thing is I 'can't' tune my iron wire coil to the frequency. Tried just now. With even a 4M7 pot (set to the highest), I'm reading 27Hz with my DVM...... I don't know why. The LED look's to be blinking even slower than I have it with my copper wire coil. Strange.

sanmankl

Bruce_TPU

@sanmankl

To answer a couple of your questions.  I am now using NPN Silicon MPS3904 transistor, after having tried out about 6 different ones.  It gives me 29 minutes, 30 seconds, with eight LED's.

The bottom green wire of EM's circuit goes to my emitter.  My collector goes to the negative side of 1000 uf cap.  It only works this way on my circuit. 

     / |  Emitter           1
    |  |  Base              2
     \ |  Collector        3

Right now I am running several experiments with a second coil in series.  I will let you know if anything interesting happens.  I also want to try ALL of my LED's in parallel.

Holiday Cheers,
Bruce

EDIT:
An interesting side note, is that if I touch ground of my kick start to the positive of the battery and the positive of my kick start to the ground, the LED's light up so bright as to hurt my eyes.  But then releasing the wires from the battery, they will not blink.

Also, on my board, hooking them up, ground to the ground and positive to the negative 12volt 100ma supply it will also light very brightly and then when the wires are removed, it will not blink.

Any ideas why from you more experienced electronic guys? 
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

acerzw

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@btentzer
It is the same circuit.. just using different values. replace the 1k resistor with a 62k resistor and replace the 100k pot with a 10k pot.  This is just an idea to be able to have more control over the frequency.  The original circuit that I posted should work fine.  Also as you can see by what sanmankl used, you can use a different RC values.

@sanmankl
Cool!  Glad you're trying the circuit in the 7hz range.  Did the circuit run longer than when running at 2hz?  Have you tried other frequencies?.. what happens at 20hz?

@acerzw
The cap in the coil sounds like something worth trying!

4Tesla