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Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.

Started by EMdevices, November 12, 2007, 11:49:58 PM

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Bruce_TPU

Quote from: wattsup on December 17, 2007, 09:50:43 PM
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That would mean keep the trigger turns and vary the coil turns and test. This would then answer the question from both sides. Unless of course by some freak chance you wound this the first time the right way for all coils also. In that case, you should give me some numbers to play the next lotto 6/49.
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@ Wattsup
That was funny!   :D

I actually think that I did hit it right for my small coil.  But I wound about three coils before this one.  I am a winding dude.

On my Santa wish list I want the following:
1.  To find the resonant frequency of my coil
2.  To set the current frequency to that resonance
3.  To test a multi vibrator circuit and connect to this oscillator

Holiday Cheers,
Bruce

EDIT:
A strange thing during some experimentation.  If you recall, I said that one turn of exposed silver plated copper, joined together over the trigger coil, has a reaction of increasing the LED on/off frequency.

Well tonight I tried some of my steel wire, exposed, all insulation stripped off, and it had ZERO effect over the trigger, whatsoever.  Then I tried some aluminum wire, with the insulation on, but the ends stripped, made one turn and joined the ends, over the trigger coil, and it nearly shorted the LED's out.  Different metals have different effects with the ferrite core.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

wattsup

@btentzer

I was posting to z_p_e about some EE stuff and thought of this.

What if the resistor is replaced by a small pot and the capacitor is replaced by a small variable capacitor? This would permit you to find this resonance, like I was doing with my RV set-up and my capacitor bank.

Also, is it possible to put a pot in front of the LEDS to adjust or match the output.

I will try it with mine. Maybe it will enable me to find the resonance of my coils or other coils.

4Tesla

@wattsup
No, still nothing.  >:( >:( :(  I'll never order anything from them again.

@btentzer
Can you please post photos of your toroids so I can see how you wound them.

Thanks,
4Tesla

magpwr

 8)

@All

Have anyone tried using ferrite/ceramic magnet that is shaped like a ring .

Food for thought.Have anyone thought magnet holds almost unlimited amount of latent power.
Imagine this in power station,there is always generator size of man maybe.
In this generator there is  magnet.For simplicity imagine electricity indirectly created by 1 magnet could create thousand more magnet that have the similar strength or better depending on material used.

So after spending the afternoon reading this forum from start.

I've managed to build the micro tpu in less than 2 hours base on old resource which i had.
Instead of using Ferrite core ,knowing that this will never create extra electricity unless or maybe the circuit was design as receiver to obtain natural 7.xx Hz frequency(with luck).I choose weak magnet.

Anyway instead of using the original  circuit design shown somewhere in the forum.
I just used 30,30 and 10 turns wound  for trigger for the transistor(2N3904).
I only tested with capacitor value .15uf to 4.7uf .
I repeat twice do not reverse the transistor for this circuit .You will see smoke.
I connected a diode IN4004 in reverse from emitter to collector in order to protect transistor,to obtain more power from back EMF (I noted the led appear brighter after placing the diode in e & c of transistor) and to  improve circuit over all efficiency.

To make this circuit somewhat stable to prevent frequency run (normaly increasing speed) which happen randomly i dunno why.To prevent the transistor from be becoming hot during first charge for few second.
I just placed 470pf ceramic cap between emitter and base of transistor, please do not go lower than this(almost as good as without capacitor).I initially started with 5nf or 5000pf or 503 all the same.


As i've mentioned i used [Ring magnet which] i 've obtained from some coreless motor(From my 1 head vcr player).

Instead of wounding the trigger coil opposite of the ring magnet,i merely wound 10 turns on top of the 30(duct tape),30(duct tape).

I think i'm using the idea from the MEG generator.But instead of using a magnet in a core to obtain electricity(base on crushing magnetic field of the core or EMF).For laziness i simply used a ring magnet in an attempt to obtain electricity base on crushing field within a magnet this time round.

I have not tried using proper copper wire for coil making .Since i was using existing resource i merely used small copper wire the kind that is coated with rubber .

I think i got around 5 min for this setup on 1000uf cap.Remember i'm using a lousy 3mm width ring magnet for the core .

Since i have not connected one of the output the 30 turn meant for led to the circuit.
Since this output is a/c i think.
I noted a strange behavior the led lit brightly on one side then the another.

Since i'm not using proper core,ring magnet .The magnet width is only around 3mm thick(Which way to thin for this experiment) ,which is the same from top down and width for outside to inner core.
The diameter is around 2.5 inch.

The reason this experiment-
To attempt to obtain overunity from crushing field within a magnet(Which i 'm not sure anyone tried before) and concept from MEG project but much smaller version.

Things to improve on
To get a proper width(much thicker than the lame 3mm) for the ring magnet.
To stick with core from original design and put a small magnet rod in center to see if there is any difference.

I have not tried this yet,the original design the trigger coil is placed directly opposite the main coil.
I'm not sure if the efficiency will improved if trigger coil is place 90 deg or 120 of main coil.


I noted one thing most overunity project are using lead battery.Since we know cap discharge quickly over hours why not use weak battery and see if it causes the battery to increase in voltage.Just a suggestion.









slapper

I like where you are going with this magpwr. It is a lot like MPI's solid state generator as well. But instead of adding magnets to a ferrite core the core is the magnet. Should make for a simpler approach. Keep going. I think you might find some interesting results to report.

Take care.

nap
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