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Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.

Started by EMdevices, November 12, 2007, 11:49:58 PM

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dean_mcgowan

#100
November 20, 2007, 10:58:26 PM
Quote from: CTG Labs on November 20, 2007, 01:21:49 PM
I would understand your point if it weren't for the fact I told everyone from the start that it wasn't real and I took it down moments after posting it.  I never claimed that it was real though...!

In any case I am sorry you feel that way and I apologise to anyone else who I offended at that time.  After a year out to go back to study I was about to re-launch myself back in to experimentation.  Perhaps I should re-consider my decision to do this...

(expecting a comment from the infamous Dean McGowan now...)


Regards,

Dave.

I always enjoyed your wealth of knowledge and contributions. We all fall of the rails sometimes ;)
Welcome back.

Bruce_TPU

#101
November 20, 2007, 11:36:01 PM
@ Duff

It could be because my ferrite is different and wound differently, I do not know.  I am including a full "top down" picture.  C is a 1.5 uf.  EM suggested a 2.2 uf but I can't get a hold of one of those until tomorrow.

My transistors are indeed reversed.  I touch my leads to a nine volt battery for a second and it is off and running.  I tried to add a 'third' transistor, but nothing happened at all, that I could see.  The LED would not light or blink at all.

I have added two more 1000 mf caps in parallel with the first one.  So two are electrolytic and one is not.  I do not know if this is "cheating" or not,  ;D  but it increased my run time from 18 minute 2 seconds to my new record for no battery as 38 minutes 5 seconds.

EDIT:  I have removed one of the 1000 uf caps and am testing with only two of them in parallel.  I have removed the non electrolytic capacitor.  The LED would not light just with it alone, so I speculate it may not be doing any good there at all.  I will post the time trial upon completion.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

duff

#102
November 21, 2007, 12:16:51 AM
Quote from: btentzer on November 20, 2007, 11:36:01 PM
@ Duff

It could be because my ferrite is different and wound differently, I do not know.  I am including a full "top down" picture.  C is a 1.5 uf.  EM suggested a 2.2 uf but I can't get a hold of one of those until tomorrow.

My transistors are indeed reversed.  I touch my leads to a nine volt battery for a second and it is off and running.  I tried to add a 'third' transistor, but nothing happened at all, that I could see.  The LED would not light or blink at all.

I have added two more 1000 mf caps in parallel with the first one.  So two are electrolytic and one is not.  I do not know if this is "cheating" or not,  ;D  but it increased my run time from 18 minute 2 seconds to my new record for no battery as 38 minutes 5 seconds.

EDIT:  I have removed one of the 1000 uf caps and am testing with only two of them in parallel.  I have removed the non electrolytic capacitor.  The LED would not light just with it alone, so I speculate it may not be doing any good there at all.  I will post the time trial upon completion.

Bruce,

You can think of your 1000uF caps as the battery, so if you have two in parallel you have 2000uf and that would account for the longer run time...

As for the circuit working with the transistor reversed I really don't understand how.

Can you read the exact part number off the transistor? I know you said radio shack npn 200 but I don't think that is the full number.


-Duff

Bruce_TPU

#103
November 21, 2007, 12:32:33 AM
With the use of only two electrolytic capacitors, rated both at 1000 uf and the removal of the non electrolytic third cap in parallel, the finshed run time was 36 minutes, 44 seconds.

Cheers,

Bruce

EDIT:  @ Duff
it says NPN Type switching transistors (pkg of 15)
Silicon:  NPN
typical hfe      200
Vce    30V
Ic       800ma
Power dissipation: 1.8W

ALSO, I now have one transistor facing one way and the other facing the opposite direction in parallel and the LED is blinking away.   ;D  I don't know what this means, either, but it is fun.  LOL
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

innovation_station

#104
November 21, 2007, 02:14:48 AM
nice work guys

i think if you look hard enough you will find a unit verry simple and far more powerful already posted

;D

  with 1 flick or 2 i put 100's volts into a cap i could drain off for hours lol!!!


never mine loop a small fraction back in to do it agin  ;D

but it is what we learn that matters  ;)

keep up the great work !!!!


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