Magnet Motor Recent Patent Application

[Pirate88179]

@ All:

I just thought of another downside.  What if, one of us on here actually makes a real, verified, replicated working device.  Maybe one of us provides all the info to everyone as per the open source approach.  Then, after a while we get sued because, 10 years ago some idiot was granted a patent on this "similar" idea, which they could not make work, but now that you have made it work, lawsuit.  This is terribly wrong.  Maybe we should all write our congressmen and demand USPO reform legislation.  Not that it would do any good, but, what else can we do?

Bill

[hansvonlieven]

This is exactly what is happening Bill,

Some scam lawyers are systematically covering a lot of ground with scam patents with nothing else but this in mind. Inventors are paying up to these shysters because it is cheaper than suing them. Sad but only too true.

Hans von Lieven

[Omnibus]

@ All:

I just thought of another downside.  What if, one of us on here actually makes a real, verified, replicated working device.  Maybe one of us provides all the info to everyone as per the open source approach.  Then, after a while we get sued because, 10 years ago some idiot was granted a patent on this "similar" idea, which they could not make work, but now that you have made it work, lawsuit.  This is terribly wrong.  Maybe we should all write our congressmen and demand USPO reform legislation.  Not that it would do any good, but, what else can we do?

Bill

That's correct. We already discussed that possibility somewhere. Unbelievable, isn't it? This has to be fought and writing to our congressmen demanding USPTO legislation reform is a very good idea. The public should be informed of this through the media as well. I called a non-profit organization seemingly dedicated to deal with undeserved patents called Public Patent Foundation and spoke with its president. They are focusing, however, on undeserved patents granted to big corporations for things obvious. For instance, Monsanto shouldn't be allowed to patent the air we breathe and ask us to pay them for every breath we take. They (the Public Patent Foundation) didn't see too much of an economic threat in the fact that patents are issued for nonsense. He said that there are many, many such patents granted. The advice was if I'm so passionate about this to come out in the media and start alerting the public of this fact.

[hansvonlieven]

G'day Omnibus,

Have another look at the first post of mine about the Jesse McQueen patent. (referenced above in this thread) This is typical in a lot of applications of that ilk. It would be almost impossible to patent ANY overunity device without listing his patent as a prior since, it is nearly all encompassing. Any device launched by you or me that works can immediately be challenged with this patent alone.

This is exactly the reason I brought it up in the first place.

I have no idea how to fix this, this system seems to be very entrenched at the moment and there are a lot of vested interests one must trample on just to state one's case.

Hans von Lieven

[jeffc]

Everyone,
I'm not sure if you are clear as to the status of the document Hans sent.  This patent application is only in the "published" phase, it has not been issued any patent. 

Also, this application has not been examined yet.  See attached screenshot from PAIR - Status "Docketed New Case - Ready for Examination".

So, eventually this will get examined.  It may be thrown out at that point.  There is also the possibility for the inventor to make revisions at certain points in the process.

In any case, I can 100% agree that the USPTO needs serious improvement, but lets be careful not to jump too quickly to criticize without understanding the process.

Regards,
jeffc