Magnet Motor Recent Patent Application

[hansvonlieven]

We know that Jeff,

This discussion just became wider because of the content.

Hans von Lieven

[jeffc]

G'day Omnibus,

Have another look at the first post of mine about the Jesse McQueen patent. (referenced above in this thread) This is typical in a lot of applications of that ilk. It would be almost impossible to patent ANY overunity device without listing his patent as a prior since, it is nearly all encompassing. Any device launched by you or me that works can immediately be challenged with this patent alone.

This is exactly the reason I brought it up in the first place.

I have no idea how to fix this, this system seems to be very entrenched at the moment and there are a lot of vested interests one must trample on just to state one's case.

Hans von Lieven

Hans,

Fixing the system is going to take some serious work.  Even if you are lucky enough to make it through the USPTO process and get granted a patent, its an expensive, time consuming path trying to defend it.  Everything that happens after you get a patent is a legal process, which certainly is much easier for the large companies and wealthy people.

The initial goal of the patent system was to present an atmosphere to encourage innovation.  Unfortunately, its not working as originally thought.


Regards,
jeffc

[jeffc]

We know that Jeff,

This discussion just became wider because of the content.

Hans von Lieven

Sorry, missunderstood.  I guess I can't see why everyone gets so angry about a simple application.  Thousands of these are rejected every month.  I know its POSSIBLE a bad one could get through, and then of course used to rip off investors.  But in reality, even a good patent with a working model doesn't mean an investor is going to be rewarded.  I've seen tons of great working ideas patented, find investors, and then fail for the 100's of other reasons that any new venture fails.

Anyway, just trying to help.  Sorry if I didn't get it.

Regards,
jeffc

[hansvonlieven]

Hans,

Fixing the system is going to take some serious work.  Even if you are lucky enough to make it through the USPTO process and get granted a patent, its an expensive, time consuming path trying to defend it.  Everything that happens after you get a patent is a legal process, which certainly is much easier for the large companies and wealthy people.

The initial goal of the patent system was to present an atmosphere to encourage innovation.  Unfortunately, its not working as originally thought.


Regards,
jeffc

@ Jeff,

Amen

Hans

[nightlife]

Based on what you all have said, I guess there is no reason to even try to build one unless it is for personal use.