SMOT TEST- can someone do this?

[Omnibus]

@Low-Q,

Don't bother posting on this topic. You have no clue and only clutter the thread with nonsense.

[tinu]

Vidar,

Even though there can be a place near the entrance where the ball may feel a repulsion, the magnetic potential energy at that point and all points nearby is still less than it is far away.  There is nowhere you can place the ball where it will be ejected from the magnet's field, and no cheating to be had by placing the ball in the SMOT entrance vs. placing it without magnets.

The best you could hope to do is come out even, by placing the ball exactly at the null in the field where it feels no force.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

@Mr. Entropy,

This is arguable and not entirely necessary.
If there is an area where the magnetic field is essentially null (and there is such an area in SMOT), then the magnetic potential of that point is the same as for an infinite distance. (Magnetic field energy density is zero). That particular point is B by a very good approximation (not exactly, because the ball would remain in unstable equilibrium in that point but B is very, very close to it, as close as the hand can place the ball). So, B is the point of highest magnetic potential energy, although it seems hard to accept at a first glance. That?s why Mb>>Ma.

This is the main reason why conventional thinking about SMOT is not appropriate and why omnibus is obviously wrong.

Please comment.
Respectfully,
Tinu

[Omnibus]

@Low-Q,

Learn some physics first and don't clutter so many threads with nonsense.

[Mr.Entropy]

So, B is the point of highest magnetic potential energy.

That doesn't follow.

This is the main reason why conventional thinking about SMOT is not appropriate and why omnibus is obviously wrong.

Hehe. no, Omnibus is obviously wrong, simply because there are NO MEANINGFUL MEASUREMENTS of energy, direct or indirect, in either the experiment or his analysis.

[Omnibus]

@Mr.Entropy,

How come? There are direct measurements which prove I'm right. h1 can be measured directly, h2 can be measured directly, m can be measured directly. Think before posting.