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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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lanenal

Quote from: albert on May 20, 2011, 01:53:59 AM
The point here is that Romero might have hit upon a one in a million combination of materials, geometry and electrical connections without knowing exactly why this thing would perform where x others of the same kind did not perform. The fact that the muller motor was not ou or has not been documented as being ou is no hindrance here. Its this one specific machine romero had on his work table that did the trick.
I think Woopy is the closest to the truth. There is a kind of rippling wave thru the coils, they all influence each other and the geometry creates this strange kind of precessional movement. Remember that a coil in an lc or tank circuit stores energy as well as a capacitor. I think that maybe the
coils function like buckets in a bucket chain where you pour water from one bucket into the next one.
Could it be that romero had one of his added diodes over the fwbrs in reverse by accident? What would that do?

I don't think there is too much coincidence there...because Romero clearly showed us there are still lots of ways to make it work, and work better...keep going people, freeing us from energy slavery!

lanenal

Quote from: webby1 on May 20, 2011, 02:42:19 AM
It went straight to .27A and 6V then dropped to 0A and like 5.9V with the voltage dropping quickly but the with the red lead hanging?

This is a one probe reading, aka one legged, not possible except with high EM values\pulses.

I have had these exact kind of readings from Franken Motor, AND I went and tested my meter against another cap and a battery,,, no such readings until I went back to Franken Motors drive cap, discharge cap for 2 minutes and the readings on my meter went to zero.  I could not get any current from the cap but the voltage showed potential,, very uncomfortable.

Red lead hanging? I am not sure if we are talking about the same video anymore...For the video I am watching, it makes perfect sense: decelerating rotor, dropping reading of the induced voltage picked up by the driving coils.

lanenal

Quote from: webby1 on May 20, 2011, 03:15:45 AM
I do not like what I have seen, it means those things that I thought I knew are not correct and I need to bring them into a new understanding and just maybe R figured some of them out so if I figure out what he did it will help me.

I think we are watching the same video, but I don't see any red lead hanging...at least the measured voltage dropping is apparently matching the decelerating rotor, the explanation I have offered might help you establish some links between the measurement and what's going on I hope...

toranarod

It has been said that the most important thing is to achieve efficiency from all aspects of the motor.
If you look at the wave form below you can see the voltage on arrow 1 the switch on time of the coil. At the beginning of the pulse the amplitude is at max indicating the coil is at its highest resistance or should I say impedance.
As time move on the amplitude drops of as the coils impedance drops quickly. Arrow 2. Then it switches off and you see the voltage returning back to the source battery indicated by arrow 3

The best way to make the motor as efficient as possible is to keep the pulse as short as possible.

But this then leaves us with the problem of not enough magnetic filed to drive the motor?     
I have had a solution to this and it works as well as providing more drive energy for nothing.

lanenal

Quote from: toranarod on May 20, 2011, 05:06:28 AM
It has been said that the most important thing is to achieve efficiency from all aspects of the motor.
If you look at the wave form below you can see the voltage on arrow 1 the switch on time of the coil. At the beginning of the pulse the amplitude is at max indicating the coil is at its highest resistance or should I say impedance.
As time move on the amplitude drops of as the coils impedance drops quickly. Arrow 2. Then it switches off and you see the voltage returning back to the source battery indicated by arrow 3

The best way to make the motor as efficient as possible is to keep the pulse as short as possible.

But this then leaves us with the problem of not enough magnetic filed to drive the motor?     
I have had a solution to this and it works as well as providing more drive energy for nothing.

Let us try to verify the following postulations by more measurements:

P1. Arrow 1 is the point of time when the hall sensor is activated, and the current in the driving coil is climbing up from zero Amps.
P2. Arrow 2 is the point of time when the hall sensor is off, the current in the driving coil is at its climax -- so it starts to fall at that very moment.
P3. Arrow 3 is the point of time when the driving coil's current drops to zero.

If the above postulation are correct, then I would further put a conjecture:

C1: the voltage drop from Arrow 1 to Arrow 2 is due to the current increase, which caused a bigger voltage drop (considered a waste) in between the battery and the coil.

C2: one crucial timing to make it efficient is this: Arrow 3 is at TDC (assuming it is in attraction mode).