Muller Dynamo

[TEKTRON]

Thanks, E2m... The circuit I'm working on is more like a REVERSE -JT, and it charges a cap quickly on the output leg... but we haven't tried looping yet.  Would have to step down the output voltage from about 8V (pulsed) down to 2.5-3V input .  Same sort of issue that RomeroUK faced, and solved with his DC-DC converter.  Mine runs at 1.4 MHz, however... anyway, thanks for pushing me a bit on looping.

And I agree with you that "Romero's / Muller's device gives us a shot at making some real world useful energy. "   I would like to ask folks here, as a colleague and I are thinking of ONE replication for now -- which would be better to replicate --
1.  Romero/Muller device?
or
2.  Gabriel Device ?

Both look promising to me, and evidently operate at "real world useful" power...

Go for #1
It has more promise

[lumen]

This is the kind of reasoning that will keep us missing a possible overunity event.

Just because one wind turbine the same size generates 1000watts does not mean the the next one that is almost the same will generate the same amount of power. Even with simple generation like this the amount of captured energy has many many factors that come into play and wire for distribution and coils play a huge role!

These kinds of blanket statements I believe will only teach us not to be investigators but instead just go with the status quo. In order to achieve OU or anything grand we have to learn to be better investigators rather then continually working with the same mindset or framework in mind we need to expand our horizons a bit further to open up to a many things that may be in plain sight which we are missing. If you insist that that thing is batteries hidden so be it I think it is fair to have such a thought. But if we sit back and do nothing and claim everything is impossible I dunno what exactly one could gain from such actions or statements really?

While I do not entirely object to physics I do object to there not being some form of abundant energy through out the universe that we are not aware of. I object to the fact that we are using the best forms of wireless communications that there is. I object to the fact that nothing moves faster then the speed of light.

Is it easy to discover any one of these things? Absolutely not?

Does it mean that it is impossible well I think there may be physical evidence in our reality that points to the answer of no. We are indeed missing something big I believe. And it may be a multitude of little things. Who knows for sure.

@Infringer
I think you are riding too heavy on that comment, the intent of the statement is simply to bring to light that there are endless possible ways to trigger a pulse motor with some better than others because they may have better control and are more efficient, but the fact is the one Romero used was very simple and worked!
In the end when your Muller setup does not work, will you not wonder if it could be the trigger method you used? Then in the end just build the same trigger setup as Romero anyway?

I mean, why spin off on a tangent thinking something is better? You are already working on the impossible, everything counts. Make improvements after it works!
(this is only a suggestion, you still can build it anyway you like!)

[konehead]

Marine supply stores sell stainless steel "trolling wire" in spools that is used for deep-water fishing...its  very strong and thin lightwieght wire and mabye only .75 mm thick or so (26GA?) and the stainless steel seems to be the 99% non-magnetic type too...what I do sometimes if planning on lots of rpms, is to wrap a couple of turns of this wire around each of the "exposed" magnets (sticking out a bit from the surface of the flat rotor) super glue it down, then let the glue dry and cover with epoxy coating... not that pretty but it works...so itsone long length of wire looped around each magnet to make sure they wont fly out.

Also you can wrap a few layers of this SSwire around hte outside rim of the rotor itsef, so no you have "stainless steel rim" to the rotor and no way will the rotor explode on you from centrifugal force.

also important thing to know, is if you happen to be using SS threaded-rod as your axle, and then you bolt a hub to each side, or jsut one side of the rotor, with nuts above and below the rotor and hub as is normal way to go -
and  IF you tighten those nuts too tight, it will actually distort the rotor a bit in the "90 degree flatness" you are looking for.
you can have perfect 90 degrees to the axle and hub, and hub perfectly flat with rotor surface eveything is squared up nice and well built, but then you tighten those nuts too much, and the rotor will assume the angle of the threads in the axle...and now you have like 5 or 10mm mm wobble to the rotor spin out at the edge of the rotor.

Best solution is cut a straight channel/slot down the middle of your axle lengthwise with a dremel tool or metal cutting circular saw blade (if thick axle) then cut a slot in the hub of the rotor too, and make a key out of metal to fit into the slot of the hub, and into the channel in the axle that was cut out...its just like most off-shelf motors will have on their shaft to mount pulleys and stuff - a "keyway" (channel) and a key....
so this will lock the hub and rotor onto the axle very good, and then the nuts each side of the rotor and hub jsut need to be tightened "snug' and not overly tight and now your rotor will spin very flat...   

[hartiberlin]

Lidmotors great new driver circuit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv9BeATS69E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[k4zep]

@e2Matrix

My TabPlastic plates are 1/4" thick. Regarding the VCR drive, I would not try to figure out the motor controls, just use the bearings and the assembly - that's what I did. But you must find the right screws to secure the bottom of the VCR drive to the rotor and it's not very easy. You must remove the bottom for screws. Hope that helps.

cheers
chrisC

After excessive wobble, shimmy, shake rattle and roll in my "home made" rotor, I have taken a back up and punt attitude and will be essentially starting over after my vacation next week.  IF you do not have a true running rotor, you simply will never tune it for max output with minimum drag.  That was a lot of work thrown away!  Pictures of VCR rotor/stator/bearing assembly that I might use on next mechanical try!