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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Hope

If we use slotted ferrite cores we should be able to tune the coils easier instead of spacing changes.

CLaNZeR

Quote from: powercat on May 27, 2011, 01:03:53 PM
Important update from ZeroFossilFuel   8)

Muller Magnet Motor update 10
Testing opposing fields through the ferrite cores
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EInxoq_RMeI&feature=channel_video_title

ZeroFossilFuel is doing a great job and even though he has mentioned my name in his videos, stating that you do not need expensive machinery, he has to remember that I started out years ago, exactly where he is, having to use whatever hand tools I had to hand to build the best I could.

Over the years and after spending nearly every spare penny I have on tools that would allow me to do more accurate job, I have indeed built up some handy gadgets, but that does not mean it cannot still be done by hand.
Some call this hobby madness/obsession, some call it dedication. But using the tools I have to hand to do a more accurate job and I will adapt them and use them to do any job, if it makes it easier and more accurate.

I am confused though whether ZeroFossilFuel is doing the Muller replication or Romero's version of the Muller machine?

If it is the Romero version then why is he getting jumpy on the video, putting people down for straying from the specs, when his replication is also away from the specs?.

If it is the Muller replication then I am looking forward to the way he will wind his coils and also the way he will do the complicated switching that Muller used.

If it is the Romero replication then, yep we are all off a little here and there, but also so is he.


I pointed out on a thread over on my forums

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Mullers original had the following differences to Romero's:

Muller: Rotor magnets were set N/S facing up.
Romero's: All the same way.

Muller: Every Coil was used as a pulse and pickup coil which was controlled via a rotary switch system.
Romero's: Two coils are used for driving then rest always connected as Pickups.

You could easly configure the Romero version to do the same switching as Muller, by using a Encoder disk and a Pic Chip.

Muller: Had amorphous cores
Romero's: Has ferrite cores.

Muller: Used 2 different wires and wound in cone shapes.
Romero's: Standard back and forth using multi strand litz wire.


Apart from that, they are pretty close. The Muller is a bit more hassle to get right and if Romero's config does work then why not replicate that and make life easier !
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I personaly do not care how people choose to replicate it, because it is the effect we are trying to replicate and there are probably many paths to the same effect.

It is the taking part that counts and if just one person hits upon an anomaly, with whatever configuration, then it becomes interesting.

There is no manual for this stuff as taught physics tell you, it will not work.

I think all the guys in here replicating are doing a great job and their skills are shining through.

Even if your rotors are not 100% wobble free, it does not matter. You are building a machine to find an effect that Romero claims to of found. You do not need Nasa/Military accuracy here, if the effect does infact exist.

I try to get my rigs as balanced and accurate as I can, but you will still see wobble, you will still see uneven cuts. But it does the job for what I need it for.

You do not need to build a rig that will run for 10 years, that is not your goal. Your goal is to build a rig that will last long enough for you to find the effect you are searching for.

So replicators, if you got a bit of a wobble or if a Cereal box is all you had to hand at the time, then please use it and notice that the people critising your builds, do not even try to build and are the last people that have the right to judge your rig.

Getting off the soap box :)

Cheers

Sean.

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synchro1

@CLaNZeR,

              I saw a short video of yours wherein you held a magnet close to a spinner to demonstrate the increase in acceleration effect. I searched high and low for it in vain. Can you post a link to it?

powercat

Quote from: CLaNZeR on May 27, 2011, 05:59:42 PM
ZeroFossilFuel is doing a great job and even though he has mentioned my name in his videos, stating that you do not need expensive machinery,

Hi CLaNZeR
I have watched the video 4 times and have not once heard him mention your name, could you let me know at what minutes into the video he uses your name ?
I don't believe any of his statement at the beginning of the video was aimed at you in a negative way.

I felt the most Important bit in the video was about (opposing fields through the ferrite cores)
I would love to hear your thoughts on his theories on this subject  ;D
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

CLaNZeR

Quote from: powercat on May 27, 2011, 06:44:12 PM
Hi CLaNZeR
I have watched the video 4 times and have not once heard him mention your name, could you let me know at what minutes into the video he uses your name ?
I don't believe any of his statement at the beginning of the video was aimed at you in a negative way.

I felt the most Important bit in the video was about (opposing fields through the ferrite cores)
I would love to hear your thoughts on his theories on this subject  ;D

Hi PowerCat

I did not say it was in that video LOL

Think it was the ferrite cutting one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZD5FLEkFKY&feature=channel_video_title

And a really good tip by the way, have scored many bits of ferrite and tapped them. Not a clean cut, but more than good enough for what we are doing here.

You can also cut a ferrite with a magnet, just get the strength right and the angle you drop it from :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUWn5m8ASC0

His theory is good and right along the Wesley Gary Neutral point in one way
http://keelynet.com/energy/gary.htm

If you take a piece of ferrite and a magnet, you are biasing it.
In other words by placing the magnet up the ass of the ferrite you are pushing up the ferrites MH curve and if the magnet is strong enough you will saturate it.

Now bring the rotor magnet towards it and you push the MH curve back the other way.

Do you get a Neutral point?

Does that Neutral point exit when the magnet is passing by it?

By gaining a Neutral point on the core of the ferrite is the Pickup Coil now less efficent?

Try it and see :)

Cheers

Sean.

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