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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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bolt

Quote from: David70 on June 25, 2011, 07:36:58 PM
looking at the wires coming from the coils I can see some of them with 3 wires some with 2 and looks that some have 4. Is it me not seeing right or..?

I think some have already had the ends twisted over exactly the same a making a Joule Thief then twist that junction together gives three wires but this stub will be soldered and cut very short leaving the 2 ends connected to make a generator coil. This is the solder blob you can see in some of the coils in photos.  For this reason a Joule Thief IS an over-unity device and i have said this for many years.  Now you can see why they often have a COP around 2 to 8 and very good at lighting very high impedance loads like CLF's but of course depends on precise construction and load tuning.

poynt99

Quote from: bolt on June 25, 2011, 07:34:14 PM
SIM can only do a normal inductor or transformer it knows nothing about ZPE or strange magnetic effects.
Sorry bolt, that didn't address my question. I'll try to be more specific and to the point:

Regarding the sim you ran on falstad to produce the attached wave form, did you use a magnetic core model?

Thanks,
.99
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Quote from: David70 on June 25, 2011, 07:36:58 PM
looking at the wires coming from the coils I can see some of them with 3 wires some with 2 and looks that some have 4. Is it me not seeing right or..?

Yes I was seeing the same thing however the resolution for such tiny wires makes it difficult to be certain exactly what is there IMO.  At this point though I'm convinced it will be worth trying bifilar.  And that makes me wonder if it was indeed Orbo people that paid Romerouk a visit. 

I think my monitor setup is probably not as sharp as some have too. 

bolt

Quote from: poynt99 on June 25, 2011, 07:59:02 PM
Sorry bolt, that didn't address my question. I'll try to be more specific and to the point:

Regarding the sim you ran on falstad to produce the attached wave form, did you use a magnetic core model?

Thanks,
.99

i think it was a single inductor 0.1H you don't have much choice in falstad can only chose a single inductor or a transformer. SO i cant make a bifilar so i cancelled the phase using 90 degree phase shifting convert to VARS then into a bridge which was shorted out.  Also cos i haven't  got a magnet going past i got to put  some energy in the circuit which was about 12v square wave and the reason is the bifilar set-up into very strong balanced magnetic fields correctly biased will provided a very high hysteresis causes a SNAP action as the core suddenly pulses from ZPE and it pulls towards the magnets in attraction mode. You can see on that spiky bits so it does NOT produce a sine wave output.

maw2432

Quote from: bolt on June 25, 2011, 07:52:27 PM
I think some have already had the ends twisted over exactly the same a making a Joule Thief then twist that junction together gives three wires but this stub will be soldered and cut very short leaving the 2 ends connected to make a generator coil. This is the solder blob you can see in some of the coils in photos.  For this reason a Joule Thief IS an over-unity device and i have said this for many years.  Now you can see why they often have a COP around 2 to 8 and very good at lighting very high impedance loads like CLF's but of course depends on precise construction and load tuning.
Bolt,  thanks!
I thought the same thing as you did about some cores looking to have only three wires...
Do you think there was a possible mistake (or on purpose) made by Romero in shorting the coils at this point in construction?    The wires are all same color and easy to mix-up thus not resulting in a true bifilar arrangement.   I guess best way to check the wires is with a meter for continuity?
Also,  what do you think about bifilar connections with the other top/bottem coil?

Bill
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