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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Dbowling


mariuscivic

Quote from: Dbowling on July 13, 2011, 06:55:13 PM
Just something to share about magnetic fields and coils.
http://www.youtube.com/user/11Turion?feature=mhee#p/u/0/1wQGlYI63MI


Hi!

Nice video

It's about changing the polarity of one of your magnet. Howard Johnson did a lot of work on this. He invented an magnetic gate and he sais at one point  "...here we have N atracting N..."

Now, the problem we all have with this muller dynamo is Lenz. How do we eliminate this? no ideea. I made a lot of experiments with mine and don't know how to solve this. I don't have acces to hi-tec equipament so my experiments stops here. I did learn a lot with this project but there is no more fun when you try everything and everything fails. I leave it to you guys and hope someone cracks it.

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: mariuscivic on July 14, 2011, 04:40:26 AM

Hi!

Nice video

It's about changing the polarity of one of your magnet. Howard Johnson did a lot of work on this. He invented an magnetic gate and he sais at one point  "...here we have N atracting N..."

Now, the problem we all have with this muller dynamo is Lenz. How do we eliminate this? no ideea. I made a lot of experiments with mine and don't know how to solve this. I don't have acces to hi-tec equipament so my experiments stops here. I did learn a lot with this project but there is no more fun when you try everything and everything fails. I leave it to you guys and hope someone cracks it.

Plengo and Itsu have experimentally shown that Lenz can be reversed with parallel resonance. Check their youtube channels for details.
I have also seen a speed-up with a very high impedance coil and a low capacitance cap, but can't get this effect for low impedance coils for some reason which is demoralizing hehe.

mondrasek

Okay, @bolt.  I have no conventional explanation for what I am seeing at the moment.  But the ZPE theories that you have kindly explained do fit.

One thing that I think some others may be missing is to match the coils exactly in each pair.  To do this I think you definitely need a scope and inductance meter as a minimum, but just a scope is mandatory.  Without the scope I don't think you can be sure that you have the voltage o/p from the top and bottom coils exactly matched.  And without this matching you will not have the necessary current canceling required.  Without this condition you will have a conventional generator as conventional current is allowed to flow.

I have taken the below readings using the heating element from a sacrificial toaster as the load per @neptune's suggestion (thanks again!).  I started at just around the same load level where I found the anomalies where trying to measure input power or hooking up a ground to the center tap of a coil pair caused weird RPM increases.  I confirmed that those same weird metering conditions appeared again.  I also confirmed that just touching ONE + probe from my DMM to the + Vin to my motor drive circuit would cause this effect.  This would happen regardless of whether the DMM was on or off.  If I unplugged the probe from the DMM it would not have that effect.  Due to this strange measurement problem I suspended taking motor drive circuit input power readings for now.

The data below should speak for itself.  I will take more and reconfirm as time allows.

One other note:  As I tuned down to this interesting RPM range by decreasing the load resistance the system became relatively noisy.  I attribute this to the increased cogging that occurs as the coils are exhibiting increased BEMF as the o/p current increases.  I placed a weight on top of the rig to damp out some of the vibrations as the noise was quite annoying. 

Where is the o/p current coming from?  I'm leaning towards ZPE.

neptune

@mondrasek .I am pleased you found the toaster element idea useful . There is often much to be gained from using junk for experiments , and much cash to be saved . As my dear departed friend Pete used to say , we must learn to see things not just for what they are , but what they might become . That effect with the switched off DVM is fascinating . It is almost as if the internal circuitry of the DVM acts as some form of antenna  .Try substituting the test lead with a length of wire longer than the test lead , and keep clipping bits off the end , and notice the effect .If you find a certain length gives the effect , That length may be a quarter wave length of the energy being pulled in from the environment .
Just a wild idea . The fact that the machine became noisy at the "sweet spot" speed might be significant .Remember Romero talked about the noise from the machine annoying the neighbours .Maybe that sound could be one of the parameters to look for in tuning . Finally , are you coils connected in series adding ? Could you just remind us of the spec of the coils as in wire size , number of turns , single or multifilar  please?
In the yellow chart above , are you measuring the output of a single coil , a coil pair or all the coils ? As you decrease the load resistance , the output watts increase . But it is evident that you have not yet reached the optimum resistance , which looks like it needs to be still lower . Of course what really matters is the load that gives the best input to output ratio . Excellent work , by the way .